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Old 03-01-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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That's the Somalia option.

Shooting the police will probably make them worse. Not a good solution to the problem.

I suppose this is yet another area in which we could take a few hints from Brits and Europeans. The Brits don't even carry guns on the street, they keep 'em at the station. Yet I'm fairly sure they don't have the problems with police brutality that we have.
The PATROL coos don't carry guns but they have armed squads all over the city that can respond nearly as fast as the regular cops.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Heres one sheriff that should of been fired yrs ago. Instead hes sheriff of the year. Unbelievable !!!
Badge of dishonor? Lee Baca named national Sheriff of the Year: Opinion - LA Daily News
That's insane. Sherrif Joe gets my vote. Nobody has gotten more scrutiny than him, and he still comes out on top. He's also gotten more death threats than any other. Hail the king of law and order! The threats come from Obots, even his inmates respect him.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: USA
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There's a march going on locally in response to a man who was shot by an off-duty police officer after an argument. Apparently the man who was was pretty well respected and the community is standing by him to make sure justice is served. The young man shot was running for city council apparently.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:36 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Like lots of things in life, law enforcement is not perfect - but it's better than no law enforcement. There really isn't any middle ground, you either have it with psychological pressures to abuse power, or you don't have it and become subject to being ruled by gangs and overlords. USA or Somalia, take your pick.

Very good point and well taken. Lot lots of things in life, we get stuck with a lot of the bad, and do put up with it.

Bad cops, bad politicians, screw it for the good guys. Can you imagine if there were no law enforcement. Right there is no middle ground. Just like politics which seems to fly only one way. Any one who does abuse there power, is wrong.

And others sit back and let it happen go figure.

I know many good cops, outstanding at what they do, they too, know that the bad mess it up for thsoe who follow the rules. Just as in politics, some make up their own damn rules!
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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It makes me think that they are the ones that should have magazine limits.
Why do cops like to kick suspects? I assume they are issued steel-toed boots, because of the damage inflicted.
What good is it to pay fireman to stand and watch a fire burn?
This is why I think the more local the better. Our fireman and law enforcement should have to reside in the community they serve and those communities need to be a lot smaller, like 10 mile radius or something along those lines. Community volunteers welcome.
In some cities they did enforce that. I know in Pittsburgh the Firemen had to live within the city limits, the policemen union fought it for awhile, I don't know if they do it now. I have always felt that the policemen should live in the neighborhoods that they are assigned to.
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Why is it that it seems like the NFL does a more complete background check before drafting a person then some police depts do in hiring recruits?
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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In some cities they did enforce that. I know in Pittsburgh the Firemen had to live within the city limits, the policemen union fought it for awhile, I don't know if they do it now. I have always felt that the policemen should live in the neighborhoods that they are assigned to.
I remember some noise about that in the Bay Area. They complained that they needed a raise to live in the area. I would solve that problem by recruiting those that already live there, or can afford to live in the area on the salary offered. If that's not good enough, we citizens should have a plan B, like an armed militia that can detain and arrest, on call. That could work for small communities.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:24 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I remember some noise about that in the Bay Area. They complained that they needed a raise to live in the area. I would solve that problem by recruiting those that already live there, or can afford to live in the area on the salary offered. If that's not good enough, we citizens should have a plan B, like an armed militia that can detain and arrest, on call. That could work for small communities.
That is true, but who would moniter the small militias when they become unlawful posses?
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: USA
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I just think we need cuts to our forces. End the Drug War. Those two things can save cities lots of money. Officers are often paid $60,000+ a year. Cut 3 or 4 of them and you have funding for new city projects or money to put back into the budget. It won't save millions, but hundreds of thousands. Could work for smaller cities who have bloated forces.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I just think we need cuts to our forces. End the Drug War. Those two things can save cities lots of money. Officers are often paid $60,000+ a year. Cut 3 or 4 of them and you have funding for new city projects or money to put back into the budget. It won't save millions, but hundreds of thousands. Could work for smaller cities who have bloated forces.
Ending the drugwar is the key, and would save millions if not billions. Not to mention lives saved. We may even get to close some prisons.
Protecting the second amendment is part of that. People can protect themselves and their property against addicts that need to steal to maintain their habits. They would either die or cleanup. We would also have to address the welfare problem of supporting addicts.
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