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Old 02-13-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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It looks like they can. Why hasn't this reached the MSM?


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Old 02-13-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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Our MSM simply matches the mental capacity of the populace it uses for business.

That being said, ObamaCare establishes guidelines for states, of minimum standards, and states are free to devise their own ways. In fact, that is why at least five states have been at work, with Vermont leading the way towards a Single Payer solution of its own.
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:12 PM
 
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It looks like they can. Why hasn't this reached the MSM?


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Eh? It's been covered all over the place. Pick better news sources.

Of course, it's nothing but silly grandstanding, because a state refusing to set up an exchange will just have its inhabitants served by a Federal exchange instead. So while it looks great to the 'baggers to stand up against evil Obamacare, in reality it decreases the influence of the state and increases Federal control of the program. Which seems sorta self-defeating to me, at least.
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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Eh? It's been covered all over the place. Pick better news sources.

Of course, it's nothing but silly grandstanding, because a state refusing to set up an exchange will just have its inhabitants served by a Federal exchange instead. So while it looks great to the 'baggers to stand up against evil Obamacare, in reality it decreases the influence of the state and increases Federal control of the program. Which seems sorta self-defeating to me, at least.
Lol

So what's CATO's issue?
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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So what's CATO's issue?
Michael Cannon and Jonathan Adler co-wrote the most widely cited legal argument holding, in a nutshell, that because the section of the law regarding exchange subsidies doesn't specifically say that federally-run exchanges can provide subsidies, then only state exchanges can do so, and therefore if a state refuses to set up its own exchange, it effectively cancels the law in the state.*

It's an interesting, highly technical argument, which is probably not going to prevail in the end. But obviously Cannon and Cato want to publicize the argument as widely as possible, in the hope of swaying general public opinion and perhaps the federal judges (ultimately, supreme court justices) who will hear and determine the case.

If the Cannon-Adler argument does prevail, we'll end up with a two-track health insurance regimen in the United States: nearly-universal coverage achieved through public-subsidized private insurance in the progressive states, and the old Dickensian status quo ante everywhere else.

It's not necessarily an unacceptable outcome, since it will mean in part that federal expenditure on subsidies and other Obamacare costs in the progressive states will help to claw back some of the unfair extra federal per capita expenditure in red states. Blue states will get the subsidies, red states will get emergency room care.

* Edit: I should say, those parts of the law relating to the insurances exchanges and related tax-credit subsidies; much of the law would be completely unaffected by the Cannon-Adler argument even if it succeeds before the Supreme Court.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:03 PM
 
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So what's CATO's issue?
Cato's issue, and the LP's issue, is federal involvement period. Whether it is tax preferred status for employee sponsored healthcare or mandates...we oppose it. Federal involvement is fraught with misapplication and misallocation. The plan put forth by Cato consists of nothing more than tax policy changes and independent economists have predicted that it would cover as many as Obamacare without a dime of federal revenue.
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