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Old 02-12-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
"Strict gun control" means, of course, 100% confiscation of all privately-owned firearms. Nothing less will work.

Criminals will always be able to get them, by stealing them, unless they are all GONE.
As long as the are CNC machines, guns will be manufactured, even if you shut down the manufacturers, these machines will still produce black market guns. Just like meth labs produce backyard drugs.

As long as there is a Mexican cartel, there will be guns in criminal hands.

It would be impossible to collect up all the illegal gun in America anyhow.

Guns will never be GONE, at least not from criminals and gangs.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:01 PM
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I'll stop if you stop saying that having a gun offers no advantage. Tell that to the thousands who have used a firearm to defend themselves, which you won't hear about in the anti-gun media. An ex-girlfriend will also beg to differ with you, she was in a situation in December of 1994 where a guy was following her in a parking lot of a mall in northwest Phoenix, which at the time, it was a new mall. It was around dusk, all she had to do was pull her .357 magnum out of her purse. The guy saw it and backed off.
Are you capable of following a discussion?

I didn't say having a gun offers no advantage in any scenario ever. There are plenty of scenarios where it does confer an advantage, either acting as a deterrent or allowing one to defend oneself.

There are also cases where having a gun strapped to your hip doesn't offer any advantage, like when someone starts shooting at your car while you're driving it. It doesn't act as a deterrent because he can't see your gun. Pulling your gun out and attempting to shoot while driving or attempting to stop and then engage in a shootout puts you at greater risk than just driving away. Having a gun in that scenario is at best of no advantage, and at worst you get yourself killed because you'd rather engage than remove yourself from the threat.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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Is there something wrong with what I said? Do you acknowledge that a mentally ill person will kill more with a gun or with a knife?
Yes there is something wrong with what you said.

The fact that you dont get it clearly indicates that there must be something wrong with you.

We have a few big issues in this country that lead to high crime rates and high murder rates.

We NEED to deal with those and stop scoreboarding over the bodies of dead kids.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:01 AM
 
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Are you capable of following a discussion?

I didn't say having a gun offers no advantage in any scenario ever. There are plenty of scenarios where it does confer an advantage, either acting as a deterrent or allowing one to defend oneself.

There are also cases where having a gun strapped to your hip doesn't offer any advantage, like when someone starts shooting at your car while you're driving it. It doesn't act as a deterrent because he can't see your gun. Pulling your gun out and attempting to shoot while driving or attempting to stop and then engage in a shootout puts you at greater risk than just driving away. Having a gun in that scenario is at best of no advantage, and at worst you get yourself killed because you'd rather engage than remove yourself from the threat.

Ah yes, the old Dont take the flu shot because you may still get malaria.

that makes as much sense as a football bat.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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Another nut with a computer, another stupid thread.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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Yes there is something wrong with what you said.

The fact that you dont get it clearly indicates that there must be something wrong with you.

We have a few big issues in this country that lead to high crime rates and high murder rates.

We NEED to deal with those and stop scoreboarding over the bodies of dead kids.
Will you at least acknowledge that guns make mentally ill people much more dangerous without taking a personal shot at me? Why are guns so easy for mentally ill people to access? Because of the NRAholes.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Americans love their guns. What would they do without them??

It's all Americans care about, the right to shoot each other. They want more guns. Little Tommy shoots his classmates. Why? Because he learned it from his dad, who's proud for the people he shot overseas.

Americans without guns is like fish without a sea.

What comes around goes around.


Peace!
brian
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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As long as the are CNC machines, guns will be manufactured, even if you shut down the manufacturers, these machines will still produce black market guns. Just like meth labs produce backyard drugs.

As long as there is a Mexican cartel, there will be guns in criminal hands.

It would be impossible to collect up all the illegal gun in America anyhow.

Guns will never be GONE, at least not from criminals and gangs.
You better believe it!
If these turds can build guns so can we!!!

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Old 02-13-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Actually, I have nothing but praise to offer the emergency responders, including the FBI and ATF. Without exception, they were all very polite and professional and not heavy handed at all.


Kathryn, I wish the fbi and atf would have been very polite and professional and not heavy handed at all when they murdered 70+ people in 93. included amongst those was a cousin.

still waiting for any fed to be prosecuted for their murdering american citizens.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Kathryn, I wish the fbi and atf would have been very polite and professional and not heavy handed at all when they murdered 70+ people in 93. included amongst those was a cousin.

still waiting for any fed to be prosecuted for their murdering american citizens.
I'm sorry to hear that.

How long will it take for Americans to start finding solutions other than "shoot 'em!!!" ??

Is our collective intelligence level that low??
I guess so..



Peace,
brian
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