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You know, you've actually hit on what I've been thinking for months. The gun control debate on the right isn't about fear of having their guns taken by the government, it's about having their guns taken by criminals. Right now, most criminals don't steal guns, they get someone to straw purchase or go to shady gun shops or gun shows or private parties. If laws are put in place to eliminate these avenues that criminals exploit, the fear of the right is the criminals will go to greater lengths to steal guns from law abiding citizens. This is the true reason the right is in favor of eliminating ALL forms of gun control. Twenty first graders be damned, as long as criminals and the mentally unstable aren't coming for their guns, they have no problem with them buying their own. After all, if criminals don't have guns, the gun nuts have no one to fantasize about shooting.
How about go after those criminals who use straw purchase to get their guns and leave us, law abiding citizens, alone?
Even when criminals don't have guns, I still want have my guns. As a woman, it's just impossible to fight against a man who is often bigger and stronger, not to mention, they often come in teams.
Fair point, and you are right, there are plenty of gun owners (on the right and left) who support background checks. But I'm talking gun nuts, those that believe that nothing can be done to stop criminals from getting guns, therefore we should do nothing to stop them. The unfortunate part of this story is the largest lobbying group for gun nuts (and moderate gun owners) spends millions advocating for the far right gun nut position of ending all gun control.
Please explain how you can stop them from getting guns.
Please further explain how you can stop them from committing crimes.
Criminals will always be able to get guns, by stealing them, unless they are 100% confiscated from EVERYBODY.
You so-called "gun control" advocates know that, of course. And so, you know your petty little "gun control" laws won't stop the bank robberies, assaults, forcible rapes, murders, mass shootings, etc.
You have had your laws in place for decades now. And the murders and mass shooting have continued unabated, and even gotten worse.
Your "strict gun control" laws won't work if they leave even SOME of the country's law-abiding citizens armed... since criminals can then still get guns by stealing them. And, being criminals, if they want a gun that's exactly what they will do.
And with 100,000,000 gun-owning households in the country, even a paltry 10% refusal rate for your (flatly unconstitutional) laws, will result in ten MILLION households keeping their guns.
But, surely you have thought of these things.
So, are you willing to send out thousands of SWAT teams to break down the door of every house of every law-abiding citizen who refuses to obey your "strict gun control" (aka total consfication) laws, and arrest the occupants while they thoroughly ransack the house to make sure they've got all the guns?
How long are you planning your reign of terror to last?
And, just in case any of those law-abiding gun owners decides to NOT submit tamely to the knock on the door (or were you planning on busting in without knocking, maybe at 2:00 AM, on everyone?)... how many thousands of gunfights do you consider to be "acceptable collateral damage" during the fulfillment of the wet dream you have expressed here?
How many of those 10,000,000 law-abiding citizens (more if there's more than one in each house) are you willing to kill, "pour encourager les autres"?
As your fellow jackbooted thugs pointed out when informed that their Fast & Furious plan a few years ago, would result in innocent civilians and/or enforcement personnel dying, "Well, you can't make an omelette without scrambling a few eggs."
How long do you plan to keep that as your motto?
Just asking. Because, of course, people like you will never answer.
Still nobody has even TRIED to refute any point made here.
Not one attempt to show criminals cannot get guns by stealing.
No hint that perhaps 100% of the law-abiding gun owners in the country, would meekly turn in their guns to the government when asked.
No evidence that, when police came to their doors to enforce the law, not a single citizen would resist.
Just the usual namecalling, bluster, and groundless denials.
You really are a hopeless, frightened slave. Not only are you advocating the further removal of rights, you're begging for it. You don't believe you deserve the liberty to defend yourself and would prefer to cower in fear until help arrives.
Tell me why you think YOU should not be allowed to defend yourself.
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North Korea is testing nukes right now. Should we throw away our own nukes even though they'll continue to have them and make threats? That's essentially what gun control is on a civilian level.
oh for crying out loud. You think the government will ring the doorbell of every house, ask if there are guns and the occupants will say, OH, SIR, SURE, DO YOU WANT MINE? I HAD PLANNED ON ROBBING A BANK TODAY, BUT I WILL FIND SOME OTHER MEANS OF SUPPORT. Of course no one will buy them illegally after they have turned theirs in? Most people realize criminals will always find a way to get a gun...
oh for crying out loud. You think the government will ring the doorbell of every house, ask if there are guns and the occupants will say, OH, SIR, SURE, DO YOU WANT MINE? I HAD PLANNED ON ROBBING A BANK TODAY, BUT I WILL FIND SOME OTHER MEANS OF SUPPORT. Of course no one will buy them illegally after they have turned theirs in? Most people realize criminals will always find a way to get a gun...
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Don't be silly. Confiscation can be done quite easily.
At least majority would comply initially once the confiscation law is passed. Then they will make a few high profile examples, very publicized on every media. They will be calling those examples "terrorists." They will give a few amnesties which will get at least over 90% compliance.
It gets interesting after that. They will put out big reward for any snitches to come forward - neighbors, friends, family members etc.
Criminals will always be able to get guns, by stealing them, unless they are 100% confiscated from EVERYBODY.
You so-called "gun control" advocates know that, of course. And so, you know your petty little "gun control" laws won't stop the bank robberies, assaults, forcible rapes, murders, mass shootings, etc.
You have had your laws in place for decades now. And the murders and mass shooting have continued unabated, and even gotten worse.
Your "strict gun control" laws won't work if they leave even SOME of the country's law-abiding citizens armed... since criminals can then still get guns by stealing them. And, being criminals, if they want a gun that's exactly what they will do.
And with 100,000,000 gun-owning households in the country, even a paltry 10% refusal rate for your (flatly unconstitutional) laws, will result in ten MILLION households keeping their guns.
But, surely you have thought of these things.
So, are you willing to send out thousands of SWAT teams to break down the door of every house of every law-abiding citizen who refuses to obey your "strict gun control" (aka total consfication) laws, and arrest the occupants while they thoroughly ransack the house to make sure they've got all the guns?
How long are you planning your reign of terror to last?
And, just in case any of those law-abiding gun owners decides to NOT submit tamely to the knock on the door (or were you planning on busting in without knocking, maybe at 2:00 AM, on everyone?)... how many thousands of gunfights do you consider to be "acceptable collateral damage" during the fulfillment of the wet dream you have expressed here?
How many of those 10,000,000 law-abiding citizens (more if there's more than one in each house) are you willing to kill, "pour encourager les autres"?
As your fellow jackbooted thugs pointed out when informed that their Fast & Furious plan a few years ago, would result in innocent civilians and/or enforcement personnel dying, "Well, you can't make an omelette without scrambling a few eggs."
How long do you plan to keep that as your motto?
Just asking. Because, of course, people like you will never answer.
How long until they run out of SWAT officers?
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