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Old 03-11-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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A single male college grad should not be making minimum wage for long. Being young and single and having the freedom to go wherever to make your way, that's your time, don't blow it. Why on earth would anyone who has nothing but has potential to have something, be thinking about marriage at the point they haven't gotten going yet. Unless they WANT to stagnate and pull someone else down with them.
And that attitude is part of why they say people are staying adolescents much longer.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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Conservatives are proud of low salary, low minimum wages. Is there any Bible connection to that? Or the psyche of Slavery still persists that 99% population should be slaves/slave wages so that 1 % masters should becom more and more rich???
99% of the population don't earn minimum wage. Nice try, though.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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I found a research paper which suggests that relative income matters in marriage, specifically that low-income men marry at increasingly lower rates the further their incomes fall below an 'ideal' standard set by the median earnings of their local (metro area) peers of the same education level and racial/ethnic group. (For example, Hispanic college graduates have a different reference standard than white high school dropouts.)

If the research is valid, social conservatives might find a minimum wage increase not a bad thing.

A man’s “marriageability” appears to be related not only to his absolute level of income, but to income relative to a middle class ideal determined bya local reference group. The model predicts that raising reference group incomes by ten percent reduces marriage by about two percent.

http://web.williams.edu/Economics/wp...TheJoneses.pdf
Sorry, not buying it. A lazy, unmotivated slacker that has no desire to better himself is still a bad "catch" whether he makes $7 or $9 an hour.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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Certainly not but it should help some at the margin.

Don't see a conservative solution for low-income men -they're not supposed to have sex until they marry, but women don't want to marry low-income men, so I guess the men are supposed to stay single and celibate, and not look at porn either.
Pssst.....you could get a better paying job. You've ignored that option entirely.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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Sorry, not buying it. A lazy, unmotivated slacker that has no desire to better himself is still a bad "catch" whether he makes $7 or $9 an hour.
A college grad doing that is worse. That person is squandering their education and many have to pay back loans. They have bigger things to think about than which groups are marrying the most and what others are doing. They have to figure out their own life, work and plan very hard, and concentrate on that, the rest will come later.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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So you being so greedy that you want to be paid a wage more than what the market dictates your job is worth is OK, but greed at the top isn't? Got it. Greed is good as long as I am the one getting the extra money.

NOT AT ALL. What I AM seeing and not liking is the starvation wages being offered. Can you pay for everything your family has and needs on 9-12 bucks an hour, not drive a 20 year old car that needs repairs that cost more than your paycheck, and keep your family fed, clothed, and in a desent home? NO you can not in this day and age with the cost of everything. It's not greed trying to earn enough to NOT be in a homeless shelter and not be stuck in a rat infested dump or a crime ridden area and all the while working every day. What the market has been dictating is lowering our wages over the last 20 years while our cost of living has risen along with far higher taxes with higher requirements for even basic jobs. It is not greed to demand that you be paid enough that you don't have to be on food stamps and have hud housing all the while working. The "market" has been degrading workers on the plant/ stores floor while the clowns at the top get it all. James Chapter 5 says that employers should be paying thier help enough the help doesn't have to stress over making their family a living. What we have had the last 20 years is the wrong direction, with majority of that time by democratic leadership in the whitehouse.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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99% of the population don't earn minimum wage. Nice try, though.
About 3.8 million workers make minimum wage or less, which is about 3 % of all workers. Women over the age of 25 represent the largest percentage of the 3.8 million, and of those women there are more that make less than the minimum wage than there are those that make minimum wage.

Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2011

Tables 1 - 10; Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2011
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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NOT AT ALL. What I AM seeing and not liking is the starvation wages being offered. Can you pay for everything your family has and needs on 9-12 bucks an hour, not drive a 20 year old car that needs repairs that cost more than your paycheck, and keep your family fed, clothed, and in a desent home? NO you can not in this day and age with the cost of everything. It's not greed trying to earn enough to NOT be in a homeless shelter and not be stuck in a rat infested dump or a crime ridden area and all the while working every day. What the market has been dictating is lowering our wages over the last 20 years while our cost of living has risen along with far higher taxes with higher requirements for even basic jobs. It is not greed to demand that you be paid enough that you don't have to be on food stamps and have hud housing all the while working. The "market" has been degrading workers on the plant/ stores floor while the clowns at the top get it all. James Chapter 5 says that employers should be paying thier help enough the help doesn't have to stress over making their family a living. What we have had the last 20 years is the wrong direction, with majority of that time by democratic leadership in the whitehouse.
People are part of the market. If people want better pay, they need to fight back.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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People are part of the market. If people want better pay, they need to fight back.
Nice try, Ron PaulTheHurricaneKid! Who has more power here?
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Nice try, Ron PaulTheHurricaneKid! Who has more power here?
As it stands, corporations have the power. People need to take it back. They need to work together.
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