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Old 02-15-2013, 02:59 PM
 
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None of your business what anyone does privately with their guns.
Exactly, the government has no business in the gun-room.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:32 AM
 
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What in the hell are natural rights?
Ugh. The gun banners have no idea of what this country was founded on.

Bill of Rights Institute: Natural Rights | Bill of Rights Institute
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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District of Columbia v. Heller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.


Federal law trumps state law.
I'd like to see the same standards that are given to freedom of speech given to the right to keep and bear arms. The right to free speech includes just about anything short of yelling "fire" in a movie theater. It includes the unnecessary to have sex in front of a movie camera and sell the film.

The right to bear arms is a natural right that the government only recognizes. It does not grant that right. The burden to limit the type of firearm lies heavily on the government to make its case.

We all know that this is really about an attempt to ban all guns, hence "Saturday night special" bans, shotgun bans in England, the total ban of guns in Australia, etc. So -- no ban on magazines or you'll just move on to something else after that.

Whoa! As a PS, I just noticed that you said that federal law trumps state law. Look at the Constitution.


Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


The rights of the federal government are limited and are specifically spelled out in the Constitution. You have it backwards.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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This is interesting:

'The number of Americans owning guns has declined for decades, especially in a younger generation that has less military or hunting experience than its predecessors. About 12 percent of adults under 35 keep a gun at home, less than half the rate for their elders, according to the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/ed...agewanted=2&hp
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