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If you have a choice between hiring a convicted thief or someone who hasn't been convicted of said crime who would you hire?
I would hire the one with the best work history, good references, and who showed up on time, prepared. Believe it or not, just because a person has a crime in their background, it doesn't mean he/she hasn't tried hard to turn it around, and have all those things.
The only time it should matter is if the crime is related to the job they are applying for. Thieves shouldn't work in banks, and child molesters shouldn't work in day cares etc.
But flipping burgers, packing boxes, etc, it shouldn't matter
Well that is the problem. We as a society haven't figured out the right about of time that should be served for a punishment. For example, real child molesters shouldn't see the light of day again.
You miss the point -- the question relates to if there is a link between criminality and job suitability:
Having an arrest record (or being short) has nothing to do with suitability for a job. If you start using an arrest record ( or height) as a job criterion, you are going to impact some ethnic groups far more than others! Some ethnic groups can get arrested far more often and some ethnic groups average a more moderate height. If you use these irrelevant factors, you will be winnowing out some ethnic groups and your criteria will not be job-related at all.
And, that is unfair and illegal.
It amazes me that some folks cannot haul this aboard.
Some ethnic groups commit more crimes than others too apparently. That doesn't appear to matter to anyone though.
I don't care what ethnic group your in. If your in the "formal felon" group then I'm hiring somebody else.
The only time it should matter is if the crime is related to the job they are applying for. Thieves shouldn't work in banks, and child molesters shouldn't work in day cares etc.
But flipping burgers, packing boxes, etc, it shouldn't matter
So you would hire a murderer to work in the bank instead of a thief? Or a thief to work in your day care center or to flip burgers? What if they steal all the burger patties out of the freezer? I guess your up **** creek without a paddle.
Well that is the problem. We as a society haven't figured out the right about of time that should be served for a punishment. For example, real child molesters shouldn't see the light of day again.
Yeah, if ANYONE is that dangerous, they should be in jail. Otherwise, if they're out, they should be able to get a job and be productive
So you would hire a murderer to work in the bank instead of a thief? Or a thief to work in your day care center or to flip burgers? What if they steal all the burger patties out of the freezer? I guess your up **** creek without a paddle.
But if you're hiring someone to cut grass or trim trees, then maybe that conviction of theft doesn't matter much.
Or maybe it does if I have a moral objection to criminal conduct?
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