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Old 02-17-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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No!!! As you see some will blame Israel (Maher) and be brand brilliant, others (Gibson) blames Jews and is branded anti-Semite. How is that???
Maher's comment was totally different from Gibson's comment, as you well know. So i'm not gonna argue with you about that. Don't pretend that you don't recognize the difference in what they postulated. Stop it.
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no not at all. I can understand why an American wouldn't care about Israel any more than any other far away country. I was in the IDF and even now most of my friends(none are jewish) and even cousins(jewish) im America dont care about Israel. You can hate Israel for all I care. That's why we need to love Israel and are willing to defend it. At the end of the day nobody's gonna save Israel except for Israel . America will support Israel as long as it is through aid and veto some things int he UN ,all this is easy. When in comes down to oil or Israel, oil will win everytime. You don't have to love Israel but don't expect us to just lay down and die. We will do what we have to do to survive and we have the right to act in our own interest.
I asked a simple question...whether or not it's mandatory for Americans to love Israel. I didn't say that i didn't care about Israel, nor did i say that i hated Israel. I didn't say i expected you or anyone else to lay down and die, and i didn't say that Israelis don't reserve the right to act in their own interests.

Calm down. I mean, why do simple questions relative to Israel turn many of you into rabid dogs? I wonder if you're from the same crowd that bashes black folks for 'hypersensitivity.'
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Maher stated political views on Israel; Gibson went off on tangents about Jewish people. Surely you can see the difference.
Of course they see the difference. They're just being silly.

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If the jews controlled are government would we have such financial problems?
LOL....wow. So you're invoking a stereotype about your own people to make a political point? I hope you're being facetious.
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No. But. . . the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Just sayin'.
What enemy? Who is my enemy? I've got nothing against the Palestinians or any other "enemy" of the Israelis. I mean, maybe you're talking about Al Qaeda, but hell, they're the enemy of just about everybody, so you're not saying anything if you mean them.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Calm down. I mean, why do simple questions relative to Israel turn many of you into rabid dogs? I wonder if you're from the same crowd that bashes black folks for 'hypersensitivity.'
Haha, seriously.

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desertdetroiter you sound anti-Semitic with your anti-Israeli attacks.

I hope you don't work in finance, law, medicine, media or the government or life will (and perhaps should) be tough for you.
Please do explain.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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desertdetroiter you sound anti-Semitic with your anti-Israeli attacks.

I hope you don't work in finance, law, medicine, media or the government or life will (and perhaps should) be tough for you.
These are serious accusations. Which remark did i make that was anti-Semitic or anti-Israeli? Point it out so that i can make my penance for such comments.

Are you just as sensitive if you think you've heard anti-black comments? (nope)

And yes, i work in government contracting. My wife works in government finance and has the same views as i do on this particular issue. And why should life be tough for me? What did i do or say to deserve to be dealt with harshly?
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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I asked a simple question...whether or not it's mandatory for Americans to love Israel. I didn't say that i didn't care about Israel, nor did i say that i hated Israel. I didn't say i expected you or anyone else to lay down and die, and i didn't say that Israelis don't reserve the right to act in their own interests.

Calm down. I mean, why do simple questions relative to Israel turn many of you into rabid dogs? I wonder if you're from the same crowd that bashes black folks for 'hypersensitivity.'



Im not being a rabid dog i didn't mean for that to come across that way. I thought i answered the question, no. You don't have to care about Israel. You don't need to care about Israel anymore than you care about Costa Rica, Taiwan or any other country that's not America..*

LOL....wow. So you're invoking a stereotype about your own people to make a political point? I hope you're being facetious.

of course just a little bit of humor
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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Maher's comment was totally different from Gibson's comment, as you well know. So i'm not gonna argue with you about that. Don't pretend that you don't recognize the difference in what they postulated. Stop it.
No it wasn't and you can continue to wear blinders, your just not willing to admit it's the same.

What if Maher said Jews control Americian polices and Gibson said Israel starts all wars......where's the difference.

I'm sure most of you would've been just fine with Gibson if he had said Israel.........
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:23 AM
 
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Haha, seriously.



Please do explain.
He's making me out to be Hitler just because i'm not slavishly sucking up to Israel on these threads.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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No it wasn't and you can continue to wear blinders, your just not willing to admit it's the same.

What if Maher said Jews control Americian polices and Gibson said Israel starts all wars......where's the difference.

I'm sure most of you would've been just fine with Gibson if he had said Israel.........
These arguments are silly. They really are.

Again, why do so many of you folks on the right start frothing at the mouth at the very mention of Israel? You guys can't even discuss it rationally without blowing the tops off of your heads in anger.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:28 AM
 
Location: North America
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These are serious accusations. Which remark did i make that was anti-Semitic or anti-Israeli? Point it out so that i can make my penance for such comments.

Are you just as sensitive if you think you hear anti-black comments? (nope)

And yes, i work in government contracting. My wife works in government finance and has the same views as i do on this particular issue. And why should life be tough for me? What did i do or say to deserve to be dealt with harshly?
The tone of your replies regarding America's relationship with Israel are deeply troubling. This isn't about sensitivity; this is about recognizing America's proper role in the protection of our Israeli allies.

If you work in govt. contracting you'd best make sure that your superiors don't hear you commenting negatively about our Israeli allies else you (and your wife) may find yourselves looking for other work.

(What would it look like if word got back to the department or agency head that he or she had a person with doubts about our fidelity to Israeli within the organizational chart? Word could then spread further up the chain and guess who would feel the full consequences of your political dissonance.)
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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What enemy? Who is my enemy? I've got nothing against the Palestinians or any other "enemy" of the Israelis. I mean, maybe you're talking about Al Qaeda, but hell, they're the enemy of just about everybody, so you're not saying anything if you mean them.
Here i will disagree with you. When it comes to Palestinians being the enemy of America that's open for debate. They were dancing throught the streets on 9/11, though i don't think they want to attack Americans necessarily not now atleast. Iranian Quds, Hezbollah, Islamic jihad and all the Shia extremists groups are 100% Americas enemies. They are even more dangerous than al qaeda and most cetainly has America and westerners in general in there cross hairs
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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http://videos.mediaite.com/embed/pla...-government%2F

Seems like his audience likes that answer....its because its the truth! Dig deeper Bill dig deeper...its not just the republicans they control.
Who cares what a comedian says?

Any body who takes him serious shouldn't be taken seriously themselves.
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