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Old 02-28-2014, 02:10 PM
 
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Bill Clinton wasn't a great President. The last great President was Grover Cleveland, term 1. Hasn't been a great president since then. Just varying levels of utilitarian socialists.

 
Old 02-28-2014, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Abraham Lincoln was the last great president the right had.


Or one could argue
A guy who suspended habeas corpus and spied on the media, and imprisoned journalist is not great president. To much revisionsit history when it comes to presidents. I'm happy he freed the slaves, but if a president were to do the things he did now, we would be calling him Hitler/Stalin/a fascist/dictator.

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Old 02-28-2014, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free any slaves.
Read it.
 
Old 02-28-2014, 02:42 PM
 
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Default Of course Clinton was better

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After repealing Glass-Steagal and other legislation, nah, not so much. a lot of Clinton's credit comes from a Republican congress that pushed him in the right direction, and the fraudulent dot.com financial bubble.
The Repeal of the Glass-Steagall laws was the primary cause of the financial crisis of the late 2000's. It was aggressively pushed by the republican congress. Also, I preferred paying $1.60 for gasoline under Clinton. Bush was about big oil, and protecting it, and giving them big subsidies while increasing their profits. During Bush W's last year, the summer of 2008, gas prices rose over $5.00 per gallon; Bush also allowed Exxon and Mobile to merge giving them more leverage with a full monopoly leading to the biggest profit margin of any major company. Bush also pushed for two major wars while giving tax breaks to the rich, and borrowing $9 trillion to maintain it. He is also responsible for the Medicare part D program designed to help the big drug companies, and forcing seniors to purchases the plan, preventing them from being eligible for plans more affordable through the drug companies intended for those without drug coverage. Medicare part D was a terrible idea, that only benefited the big drug companies and further increased the national debt. Republicans also wasted more than $40 million dollars on trying to smear Clinton with the Monica Lewinski case. Pretty amazing, some people actually think two people having consensual sex, is worse than bringing the country into two major wars under false information--weapons of mass destruction, leading to considerable U.S. debt, and thousands of American lives lost. I wonder how Bush sleeps at night knowing how much damage he is responsible for.
 
Old 02-28-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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" Republicans also wasted more than $40 million dollars on trying to smear Clinton with the Monica Lewinski case. Pretty amazing, some people actually think two people having consensual sex,..."

I thought the Bill Of Impeachment was brought for lieing to Congress, not for having sexual encounters in the Oval Office.
HMMM... Isn't that why Nixon quit? Over trying to cover things up?
 
Old 02-28-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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A guy who suspended habeas corpus and spied on the media, and imprisoned journalist is not great president. To much revisionsit history when it comes to presidents. I'm happy he freed the slaves, but if a president were to do the things he did now, we would be calling him Hitler/Stalin/a fascist/dictator.
- talk about revisionist

Pot calling the kettle black, it was a fricken CIVIL WAR
 
Old 02-28-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free any slaves.
Read it.
Thank you for your post because most people really have no idea what it was about and why it was done in the first place.
 
Old 02-28-2014, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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- talk about revisionist

Pot calling the kettle black, it was a fricken CIVIL WAR
Let me guess, you're one of those sheep who are ok with giving up your rights in the name of "national security"?
 
Old 02-28-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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Lets talk about it.

Who?
 
Old 02-28-2014, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Lets talk about it.
No. I would have to say Obama...
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