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This thread is full of stereotypes. This thread should be titled "Why do African immigrants fare better than ghettoized native-born Black people", because there are hundreds of thousands of middle class suburban dwelling Blacks in safe quiet towns and neighborhoods who have never lived in the ghetto amongst all of the social ills of serious violent crime, disease and addiction. But unlike ghetto Black people in America, the elite Blacks from Africa who have the money and or educational background to relocate to the States aren't born into crime-ridden American ghettos infested with bad schools, liquor stores, guns and literally tons of foreign drugs.
Tell me, how does a broke 17 year old Black kid living in the hood in America get his hands on heroin or cocaine that is grown thousands and thousands of miles away in Latin America? Not one gram of heroin that sells on the streets of American inner cities is home-grown here in the United States. Yet in predominantly Black cities like Baltimore, one out of every thirteen city residents is hooked on South American heroin. How are such drug connections established between broke Black folks, who can't get a full-time job at Wal-Mart let alone have enough busfare or gas money to fill up their hooptie to drive out of state, and drug kingpins thousands of miles away in Latin America? The feds allow tons of cocaine and heroin into the United States every year because illegal drugs are a multi-billion dollar business in this country. It just so happens that the illegal trade of hard drugs like heroin is best suited for the ghetto where many desperate broke folks of all ages have nothing to lose and police scrutiny is much less intense than the suburbs.
Many times, the biggest customers of hard drugs in the inner city are White folks from affluent homes in the suburbs. This really comes as no surprise as heroin is an insanely expensive and demanding habit that many working people can't even afford. Broke heroin addicts living in the ghetto resort to often dangerous elaborate money making schemes, like stripping abandoned homes and buildings of copper wire, to support their expensive habits. But drug addiction comes easiest for privileged people with too much leisure time from moneyed households in the 'burbs. Afterall, White kids from "good homes" statistically have a much higher rates of substance abuse of hard drugs than Black kids. Try not to look like a narc and talk to the average twenty something White kid from the suburbs outside of a big city and most of the time they will proudly tell you that they've done "everything" when it comes to drugs from heroin to crack to meth to LSD.
It just so happens the war on drugs targets Black kids who bite the bait of the idea of riches through participating in the ubiquitous inner city drug game. It is no coincidence that the vast majority of Black-on-Black murders in the American inner city are drug-related. This is the case in some of America's most crime-ridden big cities like Baltimore:
The war on drugs has caused America to become the number one incarcerator in the world. America is only 5% of the world in population, but the U.S. accounts for 25% of the world's prison population. The huge growth of the America prison population since the 70's has been young Black males incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses. Jailed for selling drugs that aren't even manufactured in this country.
I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that a huge chunk of the black American population treats African immigrants like trash and don't even accept that they are black.
Again, much of this has to do with exposure. In a way, you are validating pathological behaviors. The behaviors of low income inner city dwellers does not dictate normalcy. Middle and upper income black Americans tend to befriend and get along with middle/upper income Africans, because of the shared value system.
It has nothing to do with being African American or African, but it does have everything to do with your class level. Why is class always erased from the conversation? It's almost as if, you want people to believe that all African Americans behave in the same fashion, irrespective of socioeconomic status. LOL How ridiculous of you!
Yes...that means what exactly? That they shouldn't identify with their culture? Change will come about differently in Latin America due to different dynamics in those societies.
My post was in direct response to her statement that Cuba abolished slavery long before the United States which happened to be incorrect. I was also commenting on her statement which implied that racism did not really exist in Latin America which also happens to be incorrect.
I am fully aware that Afro-Latinos have a differing level of tolerance to their status in their respective countries however I felt compelled to comment on the inaccurate statements that attempted to paint Latin America as a racial utopia.
Again, much of this has to do with exposure. In a way, you are validating pathological behaviors. The behaviors of low income inner city dwellers does not dictate normalcy. Middle and upper income black Americans tend to befriend and get along with middle/upper income Africans, because of the shared value system.
It has nothing to do with being African American or African, but it does have everything to do with your class level. Why is class always erased from the conversation? It's almost as if, you want people to believe that all African Americans behave in the same fashion, irrespective of socioeconomic status. LOL How ridiculous of you!
This is not to say there isn't some racism within Hispanic nationalities, but I think it's much less than here. I think part of the reason is that there was a tremendous amount of intermarriage and slavery was abolished in Cuba before it was in the U.S. Once it was abolished, there were no lynchings or anything of the sort - at all.
I take it you have not spent a terribly long amount of time in the Dominican Republic.
My post was in direct response to her statement that Cuba abolished slavery long before the United States which happened to be incorrect. I was also commenting on her statement which implied that racism did not really exist in Latin America which also happens to be incorrect.
I am fully aware that Afro-Latinos have a differing level of tolerance to their status in their respective countries however I felt compelled to comment on the inaccurate statements that attempted to paint Latin America as a racial utopia.
Ok, guess I have been reading too many posts, because my mind tied all of that in with a prior post. It's true, that slavery did last longer in certain Latin American nations, but the environment was different in certain places. All in all, racism and colorism exists in those places too. Not sure there is anywhere that can be deemed a racial utopia on in the world...smh.
Please let's mature and throw out some of the worn out nonsense.
In this thread and others it's implied that the Government is allowing drugs into the country. Would you like to impeach Obama on that one?
We've been spending Billions and Billions over the years for law enforcement and social programs to fight drugs.
The simple truth is, organized crime, with the help of a lot of individuals looking to make a quick $$$, are bringing in drugs.
Also, there are poor areas/neighborhoods where whites do not live much better than blacks in the ghettos. There are white ghettos, with unemployment, drug usage alchoholism, mental depression...the works.
More blacks are in jail because too many flaunt themselves. So, they look suspicious and get caught.
White lawbreakers do not "strut" - they keep a low profile.
So, it is really a difference in culture there. And a reason that the poor white areas do tend to keep more lower class working people - There are not so many people walking around looking like "gangstas".
As for the intentions of the foreign born blacks - Typically a new generation of immigrants do tend to want to make a few $$4and go back to live well in their home countries...But after a few generations, that changes. It's true that today the world is changing, and places like Africa are growing...So, who knows?.
Though, there is the matter of religious extemism.
And for anyone here to say, "Well look at the Christians in the USA"...What about them?...Have you tripped over many mass graves lately?
Again, much of this has to do with exposure. In a way, you are validating pathological behaviors. The behaviors of low income inner city dwellers does not dictate normalcy. Middle and upper income black Americans tend to befriend and get along with middle/upper income Africans, because of the shared value system.
It has nothing to do with being African American or African, but it does have everything to do with your class level. Why is class always erased from the conversation?
Because only in the black American culture is leaving the ghetto, getting an education and learned how to behave synonymous with "selling out."
Look at that Trayvon Martin kid: middle class family and yet he was known for cutting class, using dope and had a twitter account named "no limit N**** er" You never hear Africans accusing each other of "acting white" for leaving the ghetto and speaking proper English.
Only in the black American culture does authenticity equal being an idiotic thug who embraces ghetto culture who eats garbage like pig feet.
Please let's mature and throw out some of the worn out nonsense.
In this thread and others it's implied that the Government is allowing drugs into the country. Would you like to impeach Obama on that one?
We've been spending Billions and Billions over the years for law enforcement and social programs to fight drugs.
The simple truth is, organized crime, with the help of a lot of individuals looking to make a quick $$$, are bringing in drugs.
Also, there are poor areas/neighborhoods where whites do not live much better than blacks in the ghettos. There are white ghettos, with unemployment, drug usage alchoholism, mental depression...the works.
More blacks are in jail because too many flaunt themselves. So, they look suspicious and get caught.
White lawbreakers do not "strut" - they keep a low profile.
So, it is really a difference in culture there. And a reason that the poor white areas do tend to keep more lower class working people - There are not so many people walking around looking like "gangstas".
As for the intentions of the foreign born blacks - Typically a new generation of immigrants do tend to want to make a few $$4and go back to live well in their home countries...But after a few generations, that changes. It's true that today the world is changing, and places like Africa are growing...So, who knows?.
Though, there is the matter of religious extemism.
And for anyone here to say, "Well look at the Christians in the USA"...What about them?...Have you tripped over many mass graves lately?
Exactly. Every culture has their motivated individuals...and then those that choose espouse low mentalities.
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But unlike ghetto Black people in America, the elite Blacks from Africa who have the money and or educational background to relocate to the States aren't born into crime-ridden American ghettos infested with bad schools, liquor stores, guns and literally tons of foreign drugs.
