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Single moms should give away their kids and get a job. Old people who have worked all their lives should move back in with their kids and work until the day they die. Only lazy bums retire. If people are destitute, they should beg in the streets and some generous republican will come along and voluntarily drop some spare change into their tin cup. If one is poor and sick they should just die, already. Why should anyone care about them. They obviously screwed up their whole life to get to the place they are.
I get it. Nowhere in the constitution does it say that the nation has a social, moral contract with it's citizens. But it does say that anyone can own any type of gun anytime, anywhere, without restriction to protect oneself and allow someone to "Stand Their Ground" if confronted by those lazy, thieving, lying, scary poor people on welfare who would kill you on sight if they didn't spend all their money on drugs and Colt 45 and bought a gun instead.
No, I think we get the over riding sentiments here, very clearly.
Our welfare programs are growing over 20% every year. We've now topped $1 trillion in annual spending in means tested programs. What will next year bring...30% increase ?
Just continue to ignore that poverty in America is increasing and the solution so far is to just spend more ?
Defense spending and social security spending were less than that with both under $1 trillion.
Our welfare programs are growing over 20% every year. We've now topped $1 trillion in annual spending in means tested programs. What will next year bring...30% increase ?
Just continue to ignore that poverty in America is increasing and the solution so far is to just spend more ?
You're trying to make people who don't have the ability to think critically understand a tragic but very harsh reality. Won't happen. They don't think. They only feel. Unfortunately, "feeling" is NOT going to make the unsustainable exponential growth of the welfare-dependent class somehow magically become sustainable.
Why can't we take that 1 trillion and get people back to work with it. Are there not businesses that can be made? The idea of bailing out corporations and giving them tax breaks and other incentives doesn't work. After you bail them out they just outsource.
Why can't we take that 1 trillion and get people back to work with it. Are there not businesses that can be made? The idea of bailing out corporations and giving them tax breaks and other incentives doesn't work. After you bail them out they just outsource.
What you need to do is re-educate them before "getting them back to work".
Many haven't graduated HS, have no skills and have spotty work records.
UT did a study about a decade ago on TANF recipients.
They read at 6th grade level.
They scored in the bottom quartile of the AFQT test which is an indicator of future employment and earnings.
Many of these poor are poor for more reasons than just not having a high paying job.
Single moms shouldn't have any kids until they've amassed enough resources to take care of them. Old people have paid into the SS and Medicare federal insurance system for DECADES. Unfortunately, they'll LOSE money on the SS deal. Not their fault. The federal government ripped them off. Many work part-time. It's enough to make ends meet so that they don't become dependent on welfare. Shouldn't they care about themselves, first, before expecting anyone else to "care about them?" It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. That's been in the Constitution since our country's inception. You're free to leave the country if you dislike the Constitution, you know.
I was responding to the original poster, Ah.... a gentleman with the handle, "tworent". It is clear in the first two pages of this thread that the OP believed that Medicare, medicaid, social security, SSDI, along with WIC, TANF, Welfare and food stamps were all part of the welfare system he was ranting against and wanted to shut all of them down immediately.
To be perfectly honest, many regular posters on this site regularly parrot those same sentiments and obviously took his side in the ensuing 103 pages of debate. It appears to me that for right wing republicans it always boils down to money and the complaint of how it is spent. Especially if it's spent on America's poor or disadvantaged. Not one ever mentions the fact that 27% of the top Fortune 500 companies pay no federal taxes. Only the guy making 12 dollars an hour and trying to feed two kids and getting all his payroll withholding back as a refund is the target.
The Buddhists believe that there are direct opposites to all things.
The opposite of Ignorance is Understanding
The opposite of Hate is Compassion
It is my opinion that there are many threads started here concerning the poor and disadvantaged based on Ignorance and Hate and very few threads based on Compassion and Understanding.
Very rarely does one ever see the words "I understand" or "Compassion" in any threads in P&OC
Just my opinion based on personal observation.
Not one ever mentions the fact that 27% of the top Fortune 500 companies pay no federal taxes.
Corporations don't pay taxes; people do. The costs of those taxes are paid by anyone who buys corporations' goods/services, or the stockholders (pension funds, workers' 401K's, etc.)
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Only the guy making 12 dollars an hour and trying to feed two kids...
Why does that guy have two kids he cannot afford to support? That's quite irresponsible.
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It is my opinion that there are many threads started here concerning the poor and disadvantaged based on Ignorance and Hate and very few threads based on Compassion and Understanding.
In case you haven't noticed, that "compassion and understanding" has created exponentially increasing generational poverty that will soon be unsupportable.
Corporations don't pay taxes; people do. The costs of those taxes are paid by anyone who buys corporations' goods/services, or the stockholders (pension funds, workers' 401K's, etc.) Why does that guy have two kids he cannot afford to support? That's quite irresponsible.
In case you haven't noticed, that "compassion and understanding" has created exponentially increasing generational poverty that will soon be unsupportable.
No more quasi-socialism. The type that the well-spoken and clean individual is doing.
Stop that ponzi scheme known as social security. I want all the money stolen from me returned. I will be generous. They can give it to me in todays dollar value, not when the dollar really bought something.
I can better provide for myself than any gov entity can.
This sort of thinking is why other countries view the U.S. as ignorant.
If you think this is asking for a lot, providing subsidies for poor American citizens, then imagine all the tax dollars given to illegal immigrants, as well as newly arrived legal immigrants. Also, all the refugees coming into the country receive benefits as well. Their airline tickets bringing them here, their clothing, their housing, fuel assistance, all their transportation, free bus passes, and all their food, free ESL classes and interpreters, not to mention free social service benefits, with social workers teaching them how to work our system. All the loans these people receive as well are either extremely low interest, or no interest. Most refugees who came here during the Vietnam era over 40 years ago are still on subsidies.
Take "legal immigrants" out of that mix & I can go along with everything you posted. Illegal immigrants
& imported refugees suck the welfare system dry.
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