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Old 02-24-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No it isn't. For women on public assistance 155 births occurred for every 1000 women on assistance and for women not on assistance 55 births occurred for every 1000 women not on assistance. The populations aren't being compared
Yes, indeed they are. That's exactly the point of listing that statistic. The Census publications even specifically say EXACTLY that:
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"The 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act (PRWORA) gave states greater flexibility to formulate and implement initiatives to reduce welfare dependency and encourage employment for members of low-income families with children. For the nation, in 2006, 10 years after passage of the Act, the birth rate for women 15 to 50 years old receiving public assistance income in the last 12 months was 155 births per 1,000 women, about three times the rate for women not receiving public assistance (53 births per 1,000 women)."
http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p20-558.pdf
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"For the nation, the birth rate for women receiving public assistance was 160 births per 1,000 women, almost three times the rate for women not receiving public assistance (56 births per 1,000 women)."
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-563.pdf

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and there were still another 900 births that occurred during the year.
No. In order for that to be true, just about EVERY woman out of 1,000 of childbearing age would have had to have a baby within the year time frame.

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What are you reading that I am not?
The actual documents. I posted EXACT QUOTES, above.

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Pg 5 "Standardizing for differences in the
number of women in different age
groups, the total fertility rate for
women in 2008 was 2,182 births
per 1,000 women aged 15 to 50.
This number indicates the projected
number of births per 1,000
women at the end of their childbearing
years if they were to have
children throughout their lifetime at
the rates prevailing in 2008
.
Projected lifetime births. Not births within the year time frame analyzed by the Census publications.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:51 PM
 
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I think people assume the "steak and lobster" women are on welfare mainly because they're black. Or do you go up to people in the store and ask them if they're on welfare, Idon'tdateyou?
First off most of the people I knew on welfare are white and most black people I know are well off.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:54 PM
 
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It actually has more to do with standing in the check out line behind them and seeing them whip out the EBT, Link (DHS: Illinois Link Card), whatever, card to pay for the steak and lobster.
I have seen it far too often. Where I live if I see someone using a Link Card I usually see staples like milk, bread, eggs, etc. I assume they fell on hard times. When I lived in Cook County I would often see them buying candy or junk food, lobster, steak and so much more. The sick irony is many times the person buying it couldn't speak English.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:28 AM
 
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It actually has more to do with standing in the check out line behind them and seeing them whip out the EBT, Link (DHS: Illinois Link Card), whatever, card to pay for the steak and lobster.

Now here's a scenario I'd like to see:

Burger flipper buying hamburger to person buying steak and lobster with food stamp card: "Why are you sitting on your azz spending my tax dollars on steak and lobster while all I work and all I can afford is hamburger?"

What does the food stamp recipient say? I think there's a video opportunity here.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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For the rich, poor or both?
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:10 AM
 
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For the rich, poor or both?
Both.

Let the consequences fall where they will...
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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does anyone think this is sustainable?
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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What rubbish is this? Why race again? You can tell when they pull out the damn card! You can even tell by what they are wearing most of the time.
Where I live, the population is mostly white.

What do they wear most of the time?
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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does anyone think this is sustainable?

So would you be okay with just giving them say $25/day in cash?
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