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Old 03-02-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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You are right. Why would anyone think the Shriner's have FREE hospital care, or Catholic Charities or the Salvation Army or any number of the thousand of other charities do any good.

Hell, we should jut eliminate ALL of them and let YOU replace ALL that they do by sending MORE money to the d3d. After all the fed is so efficient!
Have you ever gotten care at the Shriner's hospital? Catholic Charities doesn't operate a hospital nor will they pay the cancer costs and costs of living for millions. Yes, there are a few charity hospitals almost exclusively for children, but that simply doesn't take care of the need in the whole country. And the idea that people will cough up enough to give charity care to everyone if they save a few bucks on taxes is ludicrous. It's never happened in the past, and never will.

Saritaschihuahua is right.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:21 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Saritaschihuahua is right.
Apparently not:
Charity giving far off *pre-recession levels - Chicago Sun-Times

And even at the same time, Obama's presidency is plunging record-high numbers of families and children into poverty and on food stamps.

How are we supposed to have confidence in the Obama Admin's ability to care for the needy when all they do is spend record-high deficits all the while creating record-high numbers of those living in poverty and needing public assistance and food stamps?
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Funny, I don't remember charity picking up much of any tab for sick people before the recession.

As you very well know, the recession started under Bush's watch, and there has been a steady but slow improvement - just as economists have been predicting. Improvement under Obama seems to infuriate conservatives for some reason, you'd think they'd be happy about it.

Food stamps are a lagging indicator, if you people hadn't screwed up things with the sequestration we would see use of them go down. But y'all would rather see the country crash and burn under Obama than do what is right.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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Funny, I don't remember charity picking up much of any tab for sick people before the recession.
What do you think "Charity giving far off pre-recession levels" means?
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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Apparently not:
Charity giving far off *pre-recession levels - Chicago Sun-Times

And even at the same time, Obama's presidency is plunging record-high numbers of families and children into poverty and on food stamps.

How are we supposed to have confidence in the Obama Admin's ability to care for the needy when all they do is spend record-high deficits all the while creating record-high numbers of those living in poverty and needing public assistance and food stamps?
Obama was elected by the citizens of this country. Get over it. If you have confidance in him, trust him or not, it doesn't matter. In 2016 help elect a president and congress you are happier with. In the time being, all you do is bringing America down and preventing any chance of recovery. As a matter of fact all the endless complains may push America into a civil war.
Such scenario is worse even then the deficit.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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Obama was elected by the citizens of this country. Get over it. If you have confidance in him, trust him or not, it doesn't matter.
It does matter if the dumbasses who voted for him drag the rest of us down by their stupidity.

How anyone can vote for a Democrat after the disaster Clinton and his Dem Congress dragged us into by rewriting the CRA in the early 1990s and having HUD sign agreements with mortgage originators to accept liberalized alternative documentation (read: no doc, liar) for loan approval is beyond me.

Three posts that explain how this went down using Countrywide's barely wrist-slapped Mozilo as an example:
//www.city-data.com/forum/28167433-post48.html
//www.city-data.com/forum/28177852-post60.html
//www.city-data.com/forum/28180008-post63.html

To further clarify, the GSEs had to be bailed out AS WELL to the tune of $400 billion because they had agreed to buy the now-defaulting low-income high risk nontraditionally documented loans (read: no doc liar loans) from Countrywide and other lenders via a deal brokered by the Clinton admin's HUD.
Treasury ups Fannie/Freddie bailout funds to $400 billion - San Antonio Business Journal

Dumbed-down Americans... Obama is what we get.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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It's my understanding from the argument that:

It's your fault you're poor.
You should have planned ahead.
You can still work you are just lazy.
It's your fault you are poor.
Your family can take care of you.
Local charities can provide for you.
It's your fault you are disabled.

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Did I get that right? Is that how you are supposed to hate poor people?

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Sorry about your situation. That sucks.

Wait, it's my ****ING FAULT FAULT I AM DISABLED?

HOW THE **** AM I SUPPOSED TO CONTROL MY GROWTH IN MY MOTHERS WOMB?
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:22 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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What do you think "Charity giving far off pre-recession levels" means?
Wow, 6%! That could really fund a lot of new churches, and disaster relief in other countries!

We need real solutions that work for everyone, not a few people here and there. You know that.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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Wow, 6%! That could really fund a lot of new churches, and disaster relief in other countries!

We need real solutions that work for everyone, not a few people here and there. You know that.
Taking money from some to give to others isn't a solution. Taking the same percentage from all to support the genuinely incapacitated IS a solution.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:03 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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What would your definition of WELFARE be? Please list all.

welfare is getting any service that provides you with something that others have to pay for out of their own pocketbooks.
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