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Old 02-22-2013, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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-Government provided training
-Government subsidized loads (bullets)
-Fully auto perfectly fine if you served in the military


These people get it. They managed to stay out of WWII, have the strongest economy in Europe, and just about force feed gun ownership to the citizenry (citizen defense, built in homeland security)
The ultimate argument FOR a well-armed citizenry. And in the middle of the socialist states of Europe!!
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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"They managed to stay out of WWII"
That is something to be proud of?
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Dude..... totally different country, Virgina has about the same population as Switzerland!
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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You've obviously never been to Switzerland.

The super overwhelming majority of Swiss citizens don't carry guns, even if they own them.

Nice try though.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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"They managed to stay out of WWII"
That is something to be proud of?
Yes, I think that remaining neutral in the middle of hell was an accomplishment. If they had been sucked into the war, they might have been decimated.

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Dude..... totally different country, Virgina has about the same population as Switzerland!
What does this statement even mean? What does the size of a country (or that it's a different country?) have to do with being a well armed citizenry?

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You've obviously never been to Switzerland.

The super overwhelming majority of Swiss citizens don't carry guns, even if they own them.

Nice try though.
And you don't have a thing to counter the facts. The overwhelming majority of US citizens, who own guns, don't carry guns either. How is that relevant?


The point is they have the lowest rate of crime, and the highest rate of private gun ownership. Two facts, no way to argue against it, try as you might.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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"They managed to stay out of WWII"
That is something to be proud of?
Yeah...I guess that conservatives are of the opinion that staying out of the war, but being a fence and banker for Nazi thieves and criminals is honorable.

Go figure.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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Perhaps credit should be given to Switzerland having a high standard of living for all it's citizens. Let's see, the highest GDP per capita, the lowest unemployment rate, lowest inflation, and a highly educated populous. Or, it could be the guns.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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Switzerland has crime rates that mirror almost all white communities in the United States. Lets not talk about those things which maybe politically incorrect though. Put the demographic of South Chicago in Switzerland and lets see how well they do
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Yeah...I guess that conservatives are of the opinion that staying out of the war, but being a fence and banker for Nazi thieves and criminals is honorable.

Go figure.
What does conservative have to do with anything?
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Yeah...I guess that conservatives are of the opinion that staying out of the war, but being a fence and banker for Nazi thieves and criminals is honorable.

Go figure.

Not what I said, or what I meant... complete deflection. SOP for you


And again, let me remind you that I'm a Libertarian. I backed the Afghanistan war, not Iraq. In fact, that's about the time I realized I was an Independent. You go ahead with your dribble that anyone who believes in the Constitution (the way it was written) must be a conservative. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
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