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Old 02-24-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Many years ago I worked for the Democrat Party of Illinois. I used to believe that liberals were right and conservatives were evil. I believed that conservatives wanted to curtail my freedom. I also was a fighter against censorship in the media and my thinking liberals were for freedom. I was abortion for all, casual sex for all, affirmative action and welfare for all. You get my point.

What made me change was many things. I lived in an area that started drastically changing from middle class professionals to people from the housing projects and others on welfare. I started seeing the abuse of the system. I also started seeing that what I believed was wrong. Also, I started working and started to see more and more of my money disappear and during this time I had a friend who was on welfare. I started seeing people really messed up by all that casual sex.

I get more annoyed by liberals than I do conservatives now.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Okay, but did you vote for the Libertarian party in the last election?
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:12 PM
 
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Yes I did though voted for Obama in 2008 (I regret this).
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well at least you voted for your party rather than all those that claim to be libertarian but check the republican box every election.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Many years ago I worked for the Democrat Party of Illinois. I used to believe that liberals were right and conservatives were evil. I believed that conservatives wanted to curtail my freedom. I also was a fighter against censorship in the media and my thinking liberals were for freedom. I was abortion for all, casual sex for all, affirmative action and welfare for all. You get my point.

What made me change was many things. I lived in an area that started drastically changing from middle class professionals to people from the housing projects and others on welfare. I started seeing the abuse of the system. I also started seeing that what I believed was wrong. Also, I started working and started to see more and more of my money disappear and during this time I had a friend who was on welfare. I started seeing people really messed up by all that casual sex.

I get more annoyed by liberals than I do conservatives now.
You have a very reasoned argument, similar feelings that I share with you. Do you feel the same way about the gross corporate welfare and overbloated defense budget too in the same way? Libertarians make the most sense to me as well, but there aren't enough of us to make a difference. Rand Paul has some reasonable positions, but his publicized racist views make me wary of him. I also cast my vote for the Libertarian pres candidate in 2012, since it wouldn't make a difference in Texas. I however loudly prefer Obama to ANY republican alternative.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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There's no such thing as a libertarian.
Those that claim that they are libertarian is merely jaded conservatives. They are too embarrassed to be associated with the cons
In most cases you are right, but I believe there are a few people who honestly support the libertarian party.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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You have a very reasoned argument, similar feelings that I share with you. Do you feel the same way about the gross corporate welfare and overbloated defense budget too in the same way? Libertarians make the most sense to me as well, but there aren't enough of us to make a difference. Rand Paul has some reasonable positions, but his publicized racist views make me wary of him. I also cast my vote for the Libertarian pres candidate in 2012, since it wouldn't make a difference in Texas. I however loudly prefer Obama to ANY republican alternative.
Yes I do and I oppose any corporate welfare except for tax breaks to companies to keep jobs here. Not that I am happy about that, but we need some incentive to keep jobs here. I also feel the defense budget is too high and want us out of Afghanistan.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes I do and I oppose any corporate welfare except for tax breaks to companies to keep jobs here. Not that I am happy about that, but we need some incentive to keep jobs here. I also feel the defense budget is too high and want us out of Afghanistan.
I will agree with that.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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There's no such thing as a libertarian.
Those that claim that they are libertarian are merely jaded conservatives. They are too embarrassed to be associated with the cons
lols. Wake us up when the Space Shuttle lands.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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You are either LEFT or RIGHT. It's that simple.
You could be right with some left in you or you could be left with some right in you. There's no such thing as a libertarian. Im willing to go out on a limb and say independents, too.
well, I'm an anarcho-capiltalist. That means I believe the best system would be to have no government anywhere and run everything on the free market.

So does that make me a leftie or rightie???


Obviously it's possible to be a Libertarian. They have offices and candidates and everything.
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