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Old 02-26-2013, 07:22 AM
 
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Did you know that Hillary Rodham Clinton is actually Che Guevara's secret love-child?

I'm sure Che would have fathered a better looking child than that.

 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by Seeker5in1 View Post
I'm sure Che would have fathered a better looking child than that.
Well obviously the mother was from North Korea.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:29 AM
 
Location: texas
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Oh my God! can a meteor please crash unto the "birthers" already?
We need to stop arguing the point and start asking...now that you have the proof, now what?

Like Det. Alonzo Harris told office Hoyt in "Training Days"..."Its not what you know, its what you can prove."

Its time for non-birthers to say put up or shut up.

Please spread the word...

Put up or shut up.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Oh we have been saying put up it shut up for a long time, but they just keep going and going. Now all you can do is point, laugh, and wonder where it all went wrong for them.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: North America
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Silly birthers...

Keep hope alive, guys, keep hope alive...

Birther: The Birth certificate is fake.

Non-Birther: No it isn't, here's proof

Birther: The Birth certificate is fake.

Non-Birther: No it isn't, here's proof.

Birther: The Birth certificate is fake.

Non-Birther: I give up.

Birther: See, you agree with me...

And on and on it goes.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Just Let.It.Go....please.
If it was true, nothing's going to happen about it anyway. Plus it looks ridiculous to keep claiming this.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: North America
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Just Let.It.Go....please.
If it was true, nothing's going to happen about it anyway. Plus it looks ridiculous to keep claiming this.

They want a "do over"

Three words: Ain't gonna happen.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Not on US forms, it was not.

In 1961, before the civil rights and political correctness, if you were black filling out a form in the USA, it was NEGRO, no exceptions.
Prove it.
 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by Old Army Soldier View Post
Disprove what was explained in the video.
Disporve what? Gillar's hand-waving about a stupid picture of an "Obot clown" that has nothing to do with the president's birth certificate?

The clipping mask is an ordinary addition of a lot of scanner software. Scanners automatically identify the borders of a scanned image and crop to fit. And as in this case, they will sometimes clip-mask the border to account for documents that are not aligned perfectly on the scanner platen.

Some of the other amateurish stupidities and deliberate falsehoods in this video include:

1. Gillar claims that we can prove the Guthrie cell-phone snapshot and the released PDF have the same source copy since the the date and certification line up perfectly, and this would not be possible since they were "hand stamped." Gillar's problem here is that they were not hand stamped. Hawaii machine stamps and seals all the document copies from their Department of Health.

2. The "additional information" Gillar claims is hidden behind the clipping mask is hardly "information" at all. They are completely illegible and apparently meaningless marks which could just as well have been dust or some other defect on the scanner platen as something on the original document. In fact, such defects are so common that they are actually used by forensic scientists to identify a particular scanner from which scans have been made. Gillar makes the claim that they are not present on Guthrie's cell-phone snapshot. Ignoring that the marks are so subtle that they might actually be there, just not visible given the resolution of her cell phone camera, the fact that scanned images often carry defects from the platen that are not on the document pretty much renders Gillar's insistent certainty completely flaccid.

3. Gillar's theory also suffers from the rather patent stupidity of his "theory of history." He is claiming essentially that (since this is supposed to be a deliberate forgery) those illegible, pointless and ultimately eliminated marks were for some incomprehensible reason deliberately added by the "forger" and then subsequently (but just as deliberately) "hidden" behind a clipping mask.

What conceivable sense does that make?

4. Gillar calls the black and white photocopy handed out at the Whitehouse press conference a "poor quality photocopy," when it actually is a far higher resolution image than the posted PDF. This is a intentional lie by Gillar, because the truth contradicts the intended conclusion of his video. Since it is impossible to go from a lower resolution image to a higher one, the PDF cannot be the original image, but must be (either) a scan of some original higher resolution source document, or a second independent forgery.

That single detail completely eviscerates Gillar's entire theory that it is the original electronic forgery and the "original" is just a printout.

Ultimately, this is very similar to pseudoscientific "research" into nonsense like parapsychology or cryptozoology. The researchers have proven so incompetent to actually come up with solid evidence for their prejudices that they defer to tinier and tinier anomalies in the desperate hope of keeping their delusions alive.

And of course, there are always brain damaged cretins willing to swallow the stupidity hook, line and sinker. And some of them start birther threads on city-dato.

Last edited by HistorianDude; 02-26-2013 at 08:22 AM..
 
Old 02-26-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Not on US forms, it was not.

In 1961, before the civil rights and political correctness, if you were black filling out a form in the USA, it was NEGRO, no exceptions.
Wrong.
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