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View Poll Results: What Motivates the Birther?
Ignorance 0 0%
Delusion 5 7.94%
Racism 10 15.87%
All of the Above 37 58.73%
None of the Above 11 17.46%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-01-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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Birthers: When we hear the word birther, the names Orly Taitz and Sheriff Joe come immediately to mind. We see threads about them all the time on CD. Most often with the work BREAKING NEWS in their thread titles. According to wikipedia, the claims began as "anonymous" emails sent from the Hillary Clinton camp during the 2008 election. The movement grew legs after that, and took on a life of it's own.

What motivates the birther? Why the tenacity? does it have anything at all to do with the Consitution, or is there an ulterior motive here?

I put that question to you, CD posters. What do you think motivates the birther?
Racism.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If you are born of the USA of mixed parents, the father of the two who is foreign, as I understand it, the law at that time is that the citizenshp of the father prevails.
Your understanding is WRONG! If you are born in the US, you are a US citizen. Period.

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Or a mother of age to connote citizenship, Obombya had neither, despite the fact that there is no proof he was born in this country other than fraudulent documents and liars making statements. The public is being deceived.
WRONG! That is a twisting of a law that was in existence at one time. If someone was born abroad, which Obama was not, of a US citizen parent and a foreign-born parent, the US citizen parent had to have lived in the US for five years after the age of 14. Obama's mom was only 18 at the time; she had not lived anywhere for five years after age 14. However, OBAMA WAS BORN IN THE US, WHERE SUCH LAW DID NOT APPLY!
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:06 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Originally Posted by carterstamp View Post
Birthers: When we hear the word birther, the names Orly Taitz and Sheriff Joe come immediately to mind. We see threads about them all the time on CD. Most often with the work BREAKING NEWS in their thread titles. According to wikipedia, the claims began as "anonymous" emails sent from the Hillary Clinton camp during the 2008 election. The movement grew legs after that, and took on a life of it's own.

What motivates the birther? Why the tenacity? does it have anything at all to do with the Consitution, or is there an ulterior motive here?

I put that question to you, CD posters. What do you think motivates the birther?

everyone always say the wrong thing. how about following the law? how about adhering to the Constitution as written?

dont people like to follow the law or following the Constitution anymore?

if any of you say no, then dont expect gun ownerrs or me to follow any gun control law that comes out of washington dc. I shall not follow them 1 iota.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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He is not a natural born citizen,...
he is.

"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."

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BO Sr. is not his bio father,.....
oof. the frank marshall davis myth. you might want to revisit that one claud. the porn pictures that were the supposed "proof" of an affair between stanley anne and FMD have been shown to have been published years before stanley anne could have had contact with davis. you got conned by joel gilbert on that one claud.

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....he was born elsewhere and flown to Hawaii as an infant.....
couldn't have been kenya. immigration records show that zero US citizens traveled from flights originating in kenya to the US between june 30, 1961 and june 30, 1962.

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... he lived in Indonesia as a muslim, under the name Barry Soetoro.
yes! you got one! he did between the ages of 6 and 10 ( altho part of that time he attended a catholic school ).

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He likely got his education paid as a foreign student with Saudi money,...
that's a combination of an april fool's day joke and birther speculation.

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...most of his records remain hidden...
private records are private, not hidden. not a tough concept.

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... the active SS # from Connecticut,...
96814 = Honolulu, HI
06814 = Danbury, CT

"One should not make too much of the "geographical code." It is not meant to be any kind of useable geographical information."

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... everyone that could attest to his birth is dead,...
what about neil ambercrombie?

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.... his sister provided a different hospital,...
no, she didn't. it was a high school newspaper that made the error:

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.... the net is swarming with truth squad operatives to control the dialogue,...
do you believe i'm one?

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.... they live a delusion of fantasy and wishful thinking, with no connection to reality, because reality bites.
my thoughts exactly. the only difference is the target.

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..... bad vibes are comin.
no bad vibes claud, just truths.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:24 PM
 
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dont people like to follow the law or following the Constitution anymore?
" Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."

William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States of America, published in 1825
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:33 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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" Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."

William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States of America, published in 1825
so when will obama follow the Constitution as written? also, when will the house and senate follow the Constitution as well?
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:24 AM
 
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so when will obama follow the Constitution as written? also, when will the house and senate follow the Constitution as well?
all fodder for other threads. as far as the eligibility debate is concerned the constitution is being followed.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:38 AM
 
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What motivates the "birther" is a desire for the truth.
i think i've just shown this statement to be false. i've posted multiple facts with support in this thread and instead of either acknowledging those facts or contradicting them (with support ) the birthers chose to simply ignore them.

the truth is not the birthers' friend.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default What Motivates the Birther?

Blind deep-seated hatred.

Their hate has made them comical morons.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by carterstamp View Post
Birthers: When we hear the word birther, the names Orly Taitz and Sheriff Joe come immediately to mind. We see threads about them all the time on CD. Most often with the work BREAKING NEWS in their thread titles. According to wikipedia, the claims began as "anonymous" emails sent from the Hillary Clinton camp during the 2008 election. The movement grew legs after that, and took on a life of it's own.

What motivates the birther? Why the tenacity? does it have anything at all to do with the Consitution, or is there an ulterior motive here?

I put that question to you, CD posters. What do you think motivates the birther?
Seeking the truth.
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