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Old 02-26-2013, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Why not stop classifying by race?
Yes!

The government doesn't need to know my race. And in fact, it's a very inaccurate set of data since races are not pure and the census mixes race with ethnic background.

Collecting this data just reinforces our differences.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: texas
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"African-American" is a foolish term. Not all Americans from Africa are black, and not all black Americans are from Africa.
Not all white folk are europeans and not all europeans are white folk...

Not all Asians have epicathal folds and not all peoples with e folds are asians


we could do this all day.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Foolish or not, we like it (most of us) and we're gonna keep using it.

When you wake up black one morning, then I'll worry about your opinion on the matter.

Til then, stop rehashing matters that have already been decided.
Heck, I can't stop people from showing their ignorance. Not really worried about it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Not all white folk are europeans and not all europeans are white folk...

Not all Asians have epicathal folds and not all peoples with e folds are asians


we could do this all day.
That is my point. When referring to race, white people are referred to by their race (white or caucasian), not their region of origin. You don't see "Northern European American" on any census forms do you? That would be frickin' stupid.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:18 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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"African-American" is a foolish term. Not all Americans from Africa are black, and not all black Americans are from Africa.
who said they are all black ?

YOU are the one who equated African to black.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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"African-American" is a foolish term. Not all Americans from Africa are black, and not all black Americans are from Africa.
The only thing foolish is your argument.

For example,

Not all Americans from Africa are black, duh.

Not al black Americans are from Africa, double duh, which is why the census retains the classification, Black/African American.

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Old 02-26-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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who said they are all black ?

YOU are the one who equated African to black.
Well, it could be because the OP was referring to the "race" block on the census form. If we aren't talking about race and are talking about region of origin, it is perfectly reasonable to add African-American, European American, Asian American, etc. I have some black friends that emigrated here from Europe, they of course are European Americans, not African Americans. Same with Carribean Americans. I worked with some white people that came from South Africa, who are of course African Americans.

However, the question on the census, which the OP was referring to...is about race. Do try to keep up.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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That is my point. When referring to race, white people are referred to by their race (white or caucasian), not their region of origin. You don't see "Northern European American" on any census forms do you? That would be frickin' stupid.
You have no point.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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If we aren't talking about race and are talking about region of origin,
I don't know what you think you are talking about but this is what the Census bureau is interested in finding out.
The racial categories included in the census questionnaire generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country and not an attempt to define race biologically, anthropologically, or genetically. In addition, it is recognized that the categories of the race item include racial and national origin or sociocultural groups. People may choose to report more than one race to indicate their racial mixture, such as “American Indian” and “White.” People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be of any race.
Race Main - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau

By the way, white South Africans are not African Americans.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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So now a Negro isn't a Negro? Political correctness gone insane. Offensive? Good Lord everything is offensive today.
I know, right? It's just crazy.

They really ought to create a census form just for the Negro community. On that form, when they ask for the number of children in your household, it could simply ask for "gator bait."

It's about time we returned to the good old times. You know, the times before Negroes acted all uppity and thought they were entitled to feel "offended."

Gee, political correctness is truly crazy.
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