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Old 02-26-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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90% of DC is out of touch with the country (I'm being very generous with that low of a number).
This isnt something where the GOP has the market cornered.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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Completely agree with this. Obama is loved and adored almost like a deity by many Americans but its not because he's a great leader, its because he is a great speaker and is considered cool. Republicans cannot however just get a young spokesman out and immediately appeal to the younger generations. There are core policies that need to be changed, policies that absolutely disgust millennials, before the GOP can ever compete for their vote. The most crucial of these is gay marriage. Gay today is cool, it's trendy, and its hip. People under 30 will not under any circumstances vote for anybody they believe to be anti-gay. Second, 80% of people under 30 are non-religious. Religion has never been as uncool as it is now and atheism has never been as cool. The GOP must fight to protect religious liberty but stop with the "turn this country back to God" rhetoric. People under 30 want absolutely no part in that. I want to say this isn't my personal feelings but its reality of how this generation is and who the GOP must work to appeal to if we don't want to become a single party nation.

In reality though I don't think it can be done. We are likely headed for a generational Democratic supermajority until another party rises up to challenge them. In 10 years, the GOP will have likely gone into the history books like the Whigs did.
Gay is not considered cool, hip or trendy. It's just who some people are & those of us who know it & find no issue w/it are sick to death of the pukes out there who keep stonewalling gays. And the conservatives have more than just that against them. Their views on the environment, birth control, religion, non-whites...the list is endless it seems. They can try to fool people into thinking they're changing their views & becoming more progressive but we all know they're still stuck in the neanderthal mindset & most likely will never in the foreseeable future change that.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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GOP has formed an alliance with Christian fundamentalists. What you are suggesting is that they throw them under the bus. That could doom the GOP.
Possibly. The other possibility is the Christian Right would form its own party or not vote. The new GOP could win back the Reagan Republicans and libertarians who now vote Democrat because they are pro-gay. They could also make inroads with the younger generation. It's quite pathetic that two-thirds of voters 18-29 are Democrats.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Gay is not considered cool, hip or trendy. It's just who some people are & those of us who know it & find no issue w/it are sick to death of the pukes out there who keep stonewalling gays. And the conservatives have more than just that against them. Their views on the environment, birth control, religion, non-whites...the list is endless it seems. They can try to fool people into thinking they're changing their views & becoming more progressive but we all know they're still stuck in the neanderthal mindset & most likely will never in the foreseeable future change that.
I was with you until you brought race into it. It's always Obama supporters bringing up race and somehow its conservatives who are racist.

Gays and religion are what they need to back off of. 80% of people under 30 are non-religious, most of them being atheist/agnostic. We have a representative democracy and trying to force religion on a culture that doesn't want it is not a winning solution.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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Of course people think the GOP is out of touch, that's why they lost seats in the House and Senate and Obama is still president.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Of course people think the GOP is out of touch, that's why they lost seats in the House and Senate and Obama is still president.

If they were really out of touch the Dems would have an overwhelming majority in both the house and the senate.

As it stands, the GOP controls the house and the Dems control the senate. And Obama won with, what, 53%?

Someone's out of touch for sure...
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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If they were really out of touch the Dems would have an overwhelming majority in both the house and the senate.

As it stands, the GOP controls the house and the Dems control the senate. And Obama won with, what, 53%?

Someone's out of touch for sure...
The Democrats have 55 seats in the Senate. House Democrats got a million more votes than House Republicans, but the GOP still has the House because of gerrymandering. Obama is the first president since Eisenhower to win two consecutive terms with two majorities.

Who's out of touch?
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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If they were really out of touch the Dems would have an overwhelming majority in both the house and the senate.

As it stands, the GOP controls the house and the Dems control the senate. And Obama won with, what, 53%?

Someone's out of touch for sure...
So Obama winning proves that the GOP is not out of touch???
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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The Democrats have 55 seats in the Senate. House Democrats got a million more votes than House Republicans, but the GOP still has the House because of gerrymandering. Obama is the first president since Eisenhower to win two consecutive terms with two majorities.

Who's out of touch?

Are you seriously claiming Republicans are the only ones that gerrymander districts? That's laughable.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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So Obama winning proves that the GOP is not out of touch???
So they are only 6% more out of touch than Democrats is what you're saying?
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