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Old 02-26-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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What is totally hilarious is that Obama is the most "republican" candidate to run for office since Reagan.
Nothing democrat about Obama even using the most liberal of definitions.

The nu-Republican party are just fat old white guys who still lament the closing of their neighborhood John Birch headquarters
back in '73. While people most are angry at their anti-american obstructionism and adoration of the chinese, Im glad for it. This is the rope they are hanging themselves by. Keep praying to Hale Bop, Republicans . . . Just a few more nails to pound into your coffin
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:27 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Yep. Republicans are losing the PR war. Rs are taking a serious beatdown by a president who cannot govern but who does know how to tell people what they want to hear and has nor moral impediment to not doing what he says.

No use complaining about the other side. Dems are winning.

Republicans better figure this out or its church.
It's not just a "PR war", it's an ideological one. The republican party is the new American Fascist Party whose master is Wall Street.


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I'm 61 1/2 and have been a Republican since 18. I think the party needs to change, to get with it. Democrats are considered "cool" by the media, and hip, we have a moron as a President but he's cool so it's ok. Republicans are the "old white guys". The GOP needs to find someone with conservative values, who can also appeal to the masses and stand the attacks by the liberal media if the party is ever going to succeed.
In addition to the above opinion, look who repubs don't like or have alienated: minorities, women, unions, the middle class, the poor, environmentalists, scientists, educators, public employees, true moderates.
So what's left? Old white guys who yearn for a return to the 1950s where "everybody knew their place".
With this "platform", the only way republicans can win is by dirty tricks and misrepresenting their true beliefs to the American voter.

Why Republican Base Will Continue to Alienate Centrists | TIME.com
Excerpts:
** "...preaching to a shrinking choir." (as "in a bubble")
** "Republican primaries have become Tea Party litmus tests, forcing candidates to audition for a lily-white, antiurban base that feels like Archie Bunker and Ward Cleaver in an era of Modern Family and Dora the Explorer. Romney, who governed Massachusetts as a centrist, had to sprint right to prove his “severely conservative” bona fides..."
** "Now it’s recrimination time."
Yep, the country be damned, the republicans are gonna destroy this guy who dared to win an election - at all cost.

** "...governance is difficult-to-impossible if one pretends like government is always the problem and that the only goal for those in elected office ought to be the shrinking, if not the drowning in a bathtub, of government."
There it is - hatred of government by the governors. No wonder your party no longer has credibility. Don't get me wrong - it hasn't always been so, but the party has gotten away from sensible conservatives.
It ain't just PR.

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Old 02-26-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Are you seriously claiming Republicans are the only ones that gerrymander districts? That's laughable.
Did I say that? No.

What's laughable is your deflecting of reality. People out of touch tend to do that on a regular basis.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The Democrats have 55 seats in the Senate. House Democrats got a million more votes than House Republicans, but the GOP still has the House because of gerrymandering. Obama is the first president since Eisenhower to win two consecutive terms with two majorities.

Who's out of touch?
The American people.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: NYC
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It's hard to say the GOP is out of touch when half the country voted for Romney.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Did I say that? No.

What's laughable is your deflecting of reality. People out of touch tend to do that on a regular basis.
Well, that's the only one you have a problem with. Why point out and bash only the republicans for doing it?
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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It's hard to say the GOP is out of touch when half the country voted for Romney.
That is correct. A stronger candidate would have won handily.

The braying wing of the jackass party is whistling in the dark. And the tune is "YMCA."
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:28 PM
 
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Completely agree with this. Obama is loved and adored almost like a deity by many Americans but its not because he's a great leader, its because he is a great speaker and is considered cool. Republicans cannot however just get a young spokesman out and immediately appeal to the younger generations. There are core policies that need to be changed, policies that absolutely disgust millennials, before the GOP can ever compete for their vote. The most crucial of these is gay marriage. Gay today is cool, it's trendy, and its hip. People under 30 will not under any circumstances vote for anybody they believe to be anti-gay. Second, 80% of people under 30 are non-religious. Religion has never been as uncool as it is now and atheism has never been as cool. The GOP must fight to protect religious liberty but stop with the "turn this country back to God" rhetoric. People under 30 want absolutely no part in that. I want to say this isn't my personal feelings but its reality of how this generation is and who the GOP must work to appeal to if we don't want to become a single party nation.

In reality though I don't think it can be done. We are likely headed for a generational Democratic supermajority until another party rises up to challenge them. In 10 years, the GOP will have likely gone into the history books like the Whigs did.
Good post. I concur.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:38 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Pew Poll Says Majority of Americans Think the GOP is Out of Touch With the Country

No kidding?
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: west mich
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It's hard to say the GOP is out of touch when half the country voted for Romney.
Romney misrepresented and reinvented himself daily - first as a "severe" conservative, then as a moderate or even a liberal when it suited his audience, and many people fell for it. He did not state the true ideology of the republican party, so people bought into this "other" party. Romney would have been a shill for Wall Street, and most people recognized this.
Fox media (GOP TV) is everywhere, and unfortunately many people see them as "news".
In other words, the true corporate republican party is not representative of most Americans, and that would come to light if republicans were to stop lying about themselves. They cannot afford to come clean.
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