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Old 02-26-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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No, not stupid or brainwashed just slipping into moral and social decay with their so-called progressive ideas. I'd rather become extinct than to slip into the abyss with them and have to live to see what this country will become in the future.
Progressive ideas like the Earth is round.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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I was with you until you brought race into it. It's always Obama supporters bringing up race and somehow its conservatives who are racist.

Gays and religion are what they need to back off of. 80% of people under 30 are non-religious, most of them being atheist/agnostic. We have a representative democracy and trying to force religion on a culture that doesn't want it is not a winning solution.
Ahem...

The GOP needs to lay off the coded language too.

You know like Sarah Palin accusing Obama of shucking and jiving...

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Old 02-26-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Barack Obama is a "shill for Wall Street." Is there any particular reason you fail to mention this in your post?
How many links do you need me to provide you to show you that BHO is no different than any other corrupt President to grace the White House?
You're pretty vague. You are saying that recent past republican presidents have been corrupt? Who?

You're saying that Wall Street equally supports republicans and democrats? This flies in the face of history.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/us...lion-each.html
Excerpt: "Wall Street has invested more heavily in Mr. Romney, a former financier who has pledged to repeal Mr. Obama’s new financial regulations, than in any presidential candidate in memory. Employees of financial firms had given more than $18 million dollars to Mr. Romney’s campaign through the end of September and tens of millions more to the "super pacs" supporting him".
In other words it's the same old story. Corporations support the party of deregulation - Republicans, and fear the party of regulation - Democrats.

That doesn't mean they never contribute to democrats, because they often go with whomever they think will control Congress - they didn't think much of McCain/Palin.
But progressive democrats have always been a concern because of their unwanted scrutiny of corporate behavior - a few hated Bill Moyers types, which don't at all exist in the Republican Party.
Today's Republican Party is the corporate party, and they proudly wear it as a badge of honor.
Here it is from the horse's mouth - Rupert Murdoch.
Business Shifts Its Support to GOP - WSJ.com

You can repeat, or link to, any right-wing anti-Obama talking point site you want - this is how it always has been.
So again, corporations favored Romney because they knew he would be in the pocket. Obama is too independent for their liking, and his feared "progressive" agenda has been impeded only by a corporate obstructionist republican congress.

Another thing, if Obama is a corporate shill, Why doesn't Fox or any other conservative media like the guy, as they do all corporate shills?

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Old 02-27-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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Progressive ideas like the Earth is round.
What are you talking about? If you are trying to make an analogy out of a scientific discovery from long ago to the moral and social decay of today then you are so off base it isn't even funny.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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Well, lookie here:

A majority of Americans think that the GOP is out of touch with the country, according to a new poll released Tuesday.

Sixty-two percent of adults say the GOP is out of touch with the American people, 56 percent say it’s not open to change and 52 percent say it’s too extreme, according to a Pew Research Center poll released Tuesday.


Read more: Poll: Republicans 'out of touch' - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com


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The conservative party is out of touch with reality.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Well, lookie here:

A majority of Americans think that the GOP is out of touch with the country, according to a new poll released Tuesday.

Sixty-two percent of adults say the GOP is out of touch with the American people, 56 percent say it’s not open to change and 52 percent say it’s too extreme, according to a Pew Research Center poll released Tuesday.


Read more: Poll: Republicans 'out of touch' - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com


Discuss.

Every form of government tends to perish by excess of its basic principle. Aristocracy ruins itself by limiting too narrowly the circle within which power is confined; oligarchy ruins itself by the incautious scramble for immediate wealth. In either case the end is revolution.


When revolution comes it may seem to arise from little causes and petty whims; but though it may spring from slight occasions it is the precipitate result of grave and accumulated wrongs; when a body is weakened by neglected ills, the merest exposure may bring serious disease.


"Then democracy comes: the poor overcome their opponents, slaughtering some and banishing the rest; and give to the people an equal share of freedom and power".

But even democracy ruins itself by excess–of democracy.


Its basic principle is the equal right of all to hold office and determine public policy. This is at first glance a delightful arrangement; it becomes disastrous because the people are not properly equipped by education to select the best rulers and the wisest courses."


As to the people, they have no understanding, and only repeat what the media, government and celebrities are pleased to tell them" (Mircea, 2003); to get a doctrine accepted or rejected it is only necessary to have it praised or ridiculed on television or on radio or by a celebrity.


"Mob-rule is a rough sea for the ship of state to ride; every wind of oratory stirs up the waters and deflects the course. The upshot of such a democracy is tyranny or autocracy; the crowd so loves flattery, it is so 'hungry for honey,' that at last the wiliest and most unscrupulous flatterer, calling himself the "protector of the people" rises to supreme power."


-- Plato
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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The GOP's problem is that they are too white, too right, and too uptight.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:39 AM
 
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The GOP's problem is that they are too white, too right, and too uptight.
Then couldn't it be said that the Democrats are too non-white? What difference does it make what skin tone/race makes up the majority of either party?
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:56 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Well, lookie here:

A majority of Americans think that the GOP is out of touch with the country, according to a new poll released Tuesday.

Sixty-two percent of adults say the GOP is out of touch with the American people, 56 percent say it’s not open to change and 52 percent say it’s too extreme, according to a Pew Research Center poll released Tuesday.


Read more: Poll: Republicans 'out of touch' - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com


Discuss.
A majority also think the country is on the wrong track:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Direction of Country

That's kind of weird what with the dems in control and Obama being reelected and all. I mean surely we should be on the "right track" with dems in control.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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A majority also think the country is on the wrong track:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Direction of Country

That's kind of weird what with the dems in control and Obama being reelected and all. I mean surely we should be on the "right track" with dems in control.
It's now 56% wrong track. In 2011 it was 75% wrong track.

Congressional Republicans have a lower approval rating than bed bugs: National (US) Poll - February 8, 2013 - Congressional Republicans--19% Approve/72% Disapprove
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