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Old 02-28-2013, 12:56 PM
 
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Jet-Cycle!

She swam.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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You're completely wrong about that.
Says the person who invents total bull**** and then pretends she has found a discrepancy.

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For example, Stanley Ann's U Wash transcript is real.
Yes it is, and it poses no contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life.

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And this is not me:
No. It's not. But it also poses no contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life. She never says that Ann did not know how to change a diaper.

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So... Supposedly...

- Stanley Ann gave birth to Barry/Barack Soetoro/Obama in Hawaii in early August 1961, and was discharged from a Hawaiian hospital not knowing how to change her baby's diaper.
There you go again with the lie that Ann Obama did not know how to change her baby's diaper. The video never says that.

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- She then left the support of her parents and husband (Obama Sr didn't leave Hawaii until 1962:Though Obama Had to Leave to Find Himself, It Is Hawaii That Made His Rise Possible.) when baby Barry/Barack was less than a month old to travel 2,700 miles to Seattle to attend extension classes at a U Washington location. We know that because of transcripts released by UW.
Yes, she did. And it poses no contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life.

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- There is no record of Stanley Ann returning to Hawaii until Spring 1963, per U Hawaii records: U Hawaii
There's actually no record of Ann Obama anywhere between Spring 1962 and Spring 1963. So she could have just as well spent that entire year in Hawaii.

Again, none of this poses any contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life.

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So, the UW transcript and eyewitness testimony place Stanley Ann and less than 1 month old Barry/Barack in Seattle in August of 1961, but WaPo claims Obama Sr. was in Hawaii finishing his degree at that time, only to leave his wife and baby Barry/Barack behind in Hawaii in 1962.
You are lying again. The WaPo article never says he left his wife and baby "behind in Hawaii."

But since Ann could very well have been back in Hawaii anytime after Spring of 1962, that may very well be exactly where he left them.

Again... you have posed no contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life.

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And we have a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist prostituting herself to shill for Barry/Barack Soetoro/Obama by publishing as a fact something that had she bothered to do her research instead of swallowing the prepackaged Obama life narrative myth hook, line, and sinker, would have been easily proven false.
No, we don't.

You really have to stop mistaking your hallucinations for truth.

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Obama's life narrative is a complete lie.
No. Only your version of it is appears to be a lie. The actual evidence is all very consistent, and it does not contradict anything that we have learned from Obama himself.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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Says the person who invents total bull**** and then pretends she has found a discrepancy.


Yes it is, and it poses no contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life.


No. It's not. But it also poses no contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life. She never says that Ann did not know how to change a diaper.


There you go again with the lie that Ann Obama did not know how to change her baby's diaper. The video never says that.


Yes, she did. And it poses no contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life.


There's actually no record of Ann Obama anywhere between Spring 1962 and Spring 1963. So she could have just as well spent that entire year in Hawaii.

Again, none of this poses any contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life.


You are lying again. The WaPo article never says he left his wife and baby "behind in Hawaii."

But since Ann could very well have been back in Hawaii anytime after Spring of 1962, that may very well be exactly where he left them.

Again... you have posed no contradiction to the narrative of Obama's early life.


No, we don't.

You really have to stop mistaking your hallucinations for truth.


No. Only your version of it is appears to be a lie. The actual evidence is all very consistent, and it does not contradict anything that we have learned from Obama himself.

HD, I applaud your efforts to debate the subject point by point with these people. But you do realize it's like trying to teach a pig to dance. It does absolutely no good, and it pisses off the pig.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Leaving her husband, the baby's father behind in Hawaii? And traveling on her own with a baby she didn't know how to take care of?
It happens every day, especially in marriages that were never all that great to begin with.

And nobody has ever pretended the Obama's marriage was a happy one.

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She didn't know how to change her baby's diaper.
Don't be stupid.

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How did she get from Honolulu to Seattle and whatever else she had done including however much time went by before her friend in Seattle showed her how to change the baby's diaper? Was he in the same diaper for more than 8 hours? Days?
See? Even you are starting to figure out how idiotic it is to bleieve that she didn't know how to change a diaper.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Her friend said she showed her how to change the diaper.
It would hardly be the first time in history that somebody showed somebody else how to do something they already knew how to do.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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She didn't know how to change her baby's diaper. In Seattle. How did she get from Honolulu to Seattle and whatever else she had done including however much time went by before her friend in Seattle showed her how to change the baby's diaper? Was he in the same diaper for more than 8 hours? Days?
She knew how to change her baby's diaper. She just didn't do it the way this other woman did. So the other woman showed her how she changes a baby's diaper.

When my father taught me how to tie my shoes, he did it facing me. So, to a lot of people, I learned to do it backwards. I can't tell you how many people have "shown me how" they think shoes are supposed to be tied. You know what, I do it my way, because it gets the job done.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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I'd just like to see one of these "Breaking News" posts actually contain breaking news.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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I'd just like to see one of these "Breaking News" posts actually contain breaking news.

Never give up hope. It could happen.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I'd just like to see one of these "Breaking News" posts actually contain breaking news.
I know!!! Right?

This was "breaking news" from July of 2011.

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Old 02-28-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yep.

So... let's recap.

Supposedly...
- Stanley Ann gave birth to Barry/Barack Soetoro/Obama in Hawaii in early August 1961, and was discharged from a Hawaiian hospital not knowing how to change her baby's diaper.
- She then left the support of her parents and husband (Obama Sr didn't leave Hawaii until 1962: Though Obama Had to Leave to Find Himself, It Is Hawaii That Made His Rise Possible.) when baby Barry/Barack was less than a month old to travel 2,700 miles to Seattle to attend classes at U Washington. We know that because of transcripts released by UW.
- There is no record of Stanley Ann returning to Hawaii until Spring 1963, per U Hawaii records: U Hawaii

So, the UW transcript and eyewitness testimony place Stanley Ann and less than 1 month old Barry/Barack in Seattle in August of 1961, but WaPo claims Obama Sr. was in Hawaii finishing his degree at that time, only to leave his wife and baby Barry/Barack behind in Hawaii in 1962.

Obama's life narrative is a complete lie.
And yet the birthers believe that somehow this 17 year old, pregnant white girl traveled with an African to the war torn place that later became Kenya where Obama Sr. already had a wife and child to give birth to a biracial baby in the jungle. Then they somehow returned to the U.S.

And somehow, this is more plausable than her own family doing everything within their power to remove their daughter from contact with the father of their grandson. What better way than to send her back to Seattle for school and a cooling off period. For all any of us know, her mother and/or father travelled with her and the baby to Seattle and got her settled in.

No one, includig Obama, will ever know the familiy dynamics surrounding this whole situation. The state of Hawaii issued the birth certificate. Case closed.
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