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Originally Posted by chad3
1.) They are both misguided religious groups, and they both manipulate the words of their Holy Books.
Example,
a. republicans are against feeding poor people with welfare.
b. republicans are against insuring the 10,000's who die each year from not having health insurance.
c. republicans are against helping other countries.
(The Bible clearly shows that Jesus would be FOR the above things.)
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First, the Tea Party is not the Republican Party.
Second, neither the Tea Party nor the Republican Party has a holy book
a. Republicans are not against feeding poor people with welare.
b. Republicans are not against insuring people who die each year from not having insurance
c. Republicans are not against helping other countries
These are all unsubstantiated asserts and all of them are provably false. There are Republicans who don't agree with the Tea Party and Tea Party members who aren't Republicans, but are Libertarians or independent conservatives instead. Both of them are political groups, not religious groups and have no religious doctrine. The welfare system in place prior to Obama's election and executive order which changed it, was designed by Republicans so there's no way to claim that Republicans are against feeding poor people with welfare. Republicans planned to repeal and replace Obamacare, not just repeal it, so you cannot claim that Republicans are against insuring people. In his campaign Romney called for no reductions in foreign aid and stated his view that it was important for humanitarian reasons to improve the security and economies of other nations so you cannot claim that Republicans are against helping other countries.
I mean saying Republicans are against feeding poor people when the welfare system in place in place from 1996 to 2012 was designed, proposed, and enacted by Republicans? That's just flat out falsehood. Not even biased or misrepresentation. Just 100% demonstrably false.
Saying that Republicans are against insuring people who die when it was President Bush who signed prescription drug benefits for the elderly into medicare? Saying Republicans are against insuring people when Romney said in the Presidential debates that he would put in place allowances for each state insure all its uninsured people? Again, provably false.
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2. Scientist's say they both use propaganda on their own people.
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Every political group uses propaganda. You are evidence of that, as your above claims regarding Republicans being against welfare and against insuring people are pure propaganda. It takes Republicans being against the current welfare rules and spending levels and calls that being "against feeding poor people". It takes Republicans being against the specific policies of Obamacare and wanting to replace them and calls it being "against insuring people who die from lack of insurance". When you take someone opposing a particular policy and call that being opposed to dealing with the problem at all, that's propaganda. Having your own solutions for welfare and insurance that don't match Democrat solutions does not make you against welfare and insurance.
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3. Both groups have a leadership structure that makes their followers believe lies.
Example, Fox news and Rush radio are the leaders of the Tea Party. Fox news tells them lies like "global warming is not happening, tax cuts for the rich increase government revenues, B. Obama is a communist, Social Security is out of money, ex.ex." (And the Tea Party members believe all the lies.)
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Niether Rush Limbaugh nor Fox News has any relationship with the Tea Party. Merely being in the same wing of the political spectrum does not make Fox or Rush leaders of the Tea Party.
And you have no evidence whatsoever that the Tea Party members believe all the lies. You would have to ask every Tea Party member about every lie before you could state what you just did as "fact".
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4. They are both against women's rights. (But the Taliban is MUCH worse than the Tea Party)
Example, Tea Party members are against a woman's right to be a front line soldier, and they are against a women's right to have a abortion. ex.ex.ex.
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The Tea Party is not against women's rights. There is no right to be a front line soldier. The military runs under the Uniform Code of Military Justice and follows directives from Congress. You are specifically not under civilian law when you join the miltary. Nobody has any right to serve in any given position within the military.
Before you can say it is a fact that the Tea Party is against women's rights by pointing to abortion, you must first prove that the Tea Party accepts abortion as a woman's right and then opposes that right. Otherwise your characterization is wrong. If the Tea Party does not believe abortion is a right, then they are not opposed to womens' rights by being against abortion. And in any case, while many members of the Tea Party are against abortion, the Tea Party itself has no position on abortion. So again, you cannot use abortion to claim the Tea Party is against women's rights.
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5. They both love small government.
Neither group wants things like the EPA, FDA, IRS, public schools, public libraries, ex.ex.ex.
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This one is similar to #2. So what? This is another category so broad as to be meaningless. You could also say they are the same because the members of both are human beings. Or both have been seen wearing brown clothes. Both tend to drink water. Is Obama the same as Stalin because both want big government? Of course not.
Additionally, how do you know that the Taliban wants small government? How do you know that the Taliban doesn't want big government but just not have the ability to have one?
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6. Both groups commit (or) speak about violence against their own fellow country people.
Example, I have heard many Tea Party members speak of overthrowing the US government, because they believe the US government is becoming communists.
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This is an illegitimate comparison. Police officers and criminals both speak about violence against their own fellow countrymen. Does that make police and criminals the same?
Two groups both speaking about civil violence doesn't make them equivalent to each other.
Also, while Tea Party members may speak about a civil war or overthrowing the government, that is not the Tea Party position. Different people in the Tea Party can say different things without the things they say being official policy of the Tea Party.
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Can you point to 6 facts showing that the Tea Party is (not) similar to the Taliban ??
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1. The Tea Party wants rule of law via the constitution. The Taliban wants Sharia law.
2. The Tea Party wants certain policies enacted in America. The Taliban wants authoritarian rule of Afghanistan
3. The Tea Party supports freedom of expression. The Taliban banned television, music, and the Internet
4. The Tea Party does not support drug use. The Taliban actively cultivates and smuggles opium.
5. The Tea Party wants freedom of religion. The Taliban made Islam a state religion.
6. The Tea Party supports democracy. The Taliban opposes free elections.