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Old 02-27-2013, 12:27 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by MORebelWoman View Post
He did and you can do your own research because it is on you tube.
As it has already been misinterpreted.

i am not argue that the white house did not have their own idea for a sequester.

The argument is over the one that actually got passed. Where is the video saying President Obama and his administrations where the ones with that idea.

think of it like 2009, when republicans proposed their own stimulus package that was never passed. They do not take responsibility for the Obama one because it isnt their idea.

 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by dsjj251 View Post
As it has already been misinterpreted.

i am not argue that the white house did not have their own idea for a sequester.

The argument is over the one that actually got passed. Where is the video saying President Obama and his administrations where the ones with that idea.

think of it like 2009, when republicans proposed their own stimulus package that was never passed. They do not take responsibility for the Obama one because it isnt their idea.
See my post right before yours. I quote the answer to your question.

No less than BOB WOODWARD addresses this in his book. it is perfectly clear who came up with the idea of the sequester (Obama team) and what version passed (the Obama team version).

There is no question about that at all. the facts have been fully and completely laid out.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Originally Posted by TempesT68 View Post
A huge and a round of applause to Rep Ellison!

Ellison was a guest on Hannity yesterday and as usual, Hannity began trolling and spreading outright lies, to where Ellison put him in his place


"Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota ripped into Fox News host Sean Hannity during a tense interview on Tuesday night.
Hannity began his segment by claiming President Barack Obama was to blame for looming across-the-budget cuts known as the sequester. The conservative Fox News host insisted the President was “fearmongering” about the consequences of the cuts and played an irreverent mash-up of Obama’s recent speeches.
“You’re the worst excuse for a journalist I’ve ever seen,” Ellison said after being introduced.
Hannity asked for Ellison to repeat himself, claiming he couldn’t hear him. Instead, Ellison continued to blast Hannity, saying his mash-up was deceptive “yellow journalism” and a “breach of every journalistic ethic I know of.” Ellison told Hannity he was a “shill for the Republican Party,” but Hannity repeatedly insisted he was a “registered conservative.”


Rep. Keith Ellison hammers Sean Hannity: You’re a shill for the Republican Party | The Raw Story

You see that display as a win for Ellison? He looks like a jackass. How do you expect them to compromise when you have people like this that you can't even have a dialogue with?
I've been listening to Hannity a little more lately, because he's starting to get more aggressive. I like it. He's ticking them off, and that means he's on the right track. They are on the defensive.
This interview is equivalent to a kid throwing a tantrum, covering his ears and yelling lalalalala. What an idiot!
 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:36 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
See my post right before yours. I quote the answer to your question.

No less than BOB WOODWARD addresses this in his book. it is perfectly clear who came up with the idea of the sequester (Obama team) and what version passed (the Obama team version).

There is no question about that at all. the facts have been fully and completely laid out.
In his book ? You mean article, where he clearly states the Republicans are to blame. Where he states that the Obama idea included new revenues ( that do not appear in the current version), where he clearly states that the proposal came from congress itself, where he clearly states the language came from congress itself, where he clearly states Republicans put defense on the table so that they didnt have to put revenue.

from the article

Quote:

“The only reason that a sequester is in place is because both sides in Congress — Democrats and Republicans — voted for it in the Budget Control Act to force Congress to act. In fact, 2 out of 3 Republicans in Congress — including Congressman Ryan — voted for it and many praised it at the time. The President was making the point that the sequester was never intended to be policy, and that Congress must act to replace it with balanced deficit reduction. They can and should do that.
“In addition, the notion that we wanted the sequester is false. The fact of the matter is that we wanted a trigger that included balance and specifically asked more from the wealthiest individuals on the revenue side. Congressional Republicans refused.”
 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by TempesT68 View Post
A huge and a round of applause to Rep Ellison!

Ellison was a guest on Hannity yesterday and as usual, Hannity began trolling and spreading outright lies, to where Ellison put him in his place


"Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota ripped into Fox News host Sean Hannity during a tense interview on Tuesday night.
Hannity began his segment by claiming President Barack Obama was to blame for looming across-the-budget cuts known as the sequester. The conservative Fox News host insisted the President was “fearmongering” about the consequences of the cuts and played an irreverent mash-up of Obama’s recent speeches.
“You’re the worst excuse for a journalist I’ve ever seen,” Ellison said after being introduced.
Hannity asked for Ellison to repeat himself, claiming he couldn’t hear him. Instead, Ellison continued to blast Hannity, saying his mash-up was deceptive “yellow journalism” and a “breach of every journalistic ethic I know of.” Ellison told Hannity he was a “shill for the Republican Party,” but Hannity repeatedly insisted he was a “registered conservative.”


Rep. Keith Ellison hammers Sean Hannity: You’re a shill for the Republican Party | The Raw Story
Kieth Ellison wouldn't know what "journalistic ethics" are. Further, if Hannity is a shill for the Republican Party, then certainly it could be said that Ellison is a shill for the Democrat Party. He is certainly not what I would call an independent thinker.

Ellison recently blasted Michele Bachmann in a letter for her part in the letters sent to various Inspectors General, regarding Huma Abedin and her ties to the Musllim Brotherhood (which are irrefutable). Michele Bachmann replied in a detailed letter, outlining specifically the Abedin family ties to not only the Brotherhood, but the Sisterhood.

Such ties, Bachmann pointed out, have routinely been disqualifications for obtaining a security clearance, which Abendin surely would have had to obtain.

Ellison on Cavuto was recently asked by Stuart Varney if he thought it fair to take 63% of Phil Mickelson's earnings in taxes, allowing him to keep only 37% of what he earns. Ellison's response:

I think it's fair to ask Phil Mickelson for a little bit more money to make sure that we can continue to invest in infrastructure in this country... to make sure that people who have the basics.... As a patriotic American, I'm sure Phil Mickelson would agree.
This is how the left defines "fairness." Ellison concluded that, if Mickelson (or any American?) does not agree with him, then he simply has no love for his country. According to Ellison, this should be a source of great pride; synonymous with "American."

Ellison was also growing angry with Stuart Varney's questions for him on this.

Ellison is an idiot.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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In his book ? You mean article, where he clearly states the Republicans are to blame. Where he states that the Obama idea included new revenues ( that do not appear in the current version), where he clearly states that the proposal came from congress itself, where he clearly states the language came from congress itself, where he clearly states Republicans put defense on the table so that they didnt have to put revenue.
no in his book. the article quotes the book that was written back when this happened. the linked article gives the page reference from the book itself. reading is easy you should try it. You can also pick up "The Price of Politics" at any book store of your chosing.

as for him "clearly stating republicans are to blame" as you say, why is he saying that Obama has lost his mind?


hmmmm?


This proposal was certainly made because republicans refused to cave on raising taxes in the middle of a period of economic anemia. That is kind of like saying a doctor refused to give his blessing to a lung cancer patient wanting to smoke.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Here
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Yes. Continuing to babble on without conversing with the other party means he destroyed him.

Seriously, some of you folks on the Left are beyond pathetic.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by dsjj251 View Post
In his book ? You mean article, where he clearly states the Republicans are to blame. Where he states that the Obama idea included new revenues ( that do not appear in the current version), where he clearly states that the proposal came from congress itself, where he clearly states the language came from congress itself, where he clearly states Republicans put defense on the table so that they didnt have to put revenue.

from the article

Quote:
“The only reason that a sequester is in place is because both sides in Congress — Democrats and Republicans — voted for it in the Budget Control Act to force Congress to act. In fact, 2 out of 3 Republicans in Congress — including Congressman Ryan — voted for it and many praised it at the time. The President was making the point that the sequester was never intended to be policy, and that Congress must act to replace it with balanced deficit reduction. They can and should do that.
“In addition, the notion that we wanted the sequester is false. The fact of the matter is that we wanted a trigger that included balance and specifically asked more from the wealthiest individuals on the revenue side. Congressional Republicans refused.”

And again, this was an Obama proposal in the SAME Way the Bush Tax cuts were a Bush propsal. You dont call the Bush Tax cuts, congressional tax cuts. You say they were evil and Bushes fault. well guess what? Pot meet kettle.

PS Republicans are now working to find a solution. Where is Mr. Wonderful? doing a lap around the country not working on Americas problems...once again. Bammer seems to enjoy leading from behind.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by dsjj251 View Post
In his book ? You mean article, where he clearly states the Republicans are to blame. Where he states that the Obama idea included new revenues ( that do not appear in the current version), where he clearly states that the proposal came from congress itself, where he clearly states the language came from congress itself, where he clearly states Republicans put defense on the table so that they didnt have to put revenue.

from the article
You are correct, Ferd is spewing the version he heard on FOX SPEWS.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Originally Posted by TempesT68 View Post
Hannity is a propaganda spreader that pretends to be presenting factual "news"

CD is asking me to spread some Reputation around can't rep you again ... You pretty much hit the nail on the head...
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