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Old 03-02-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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Agreed, but has the guvmint's claim ever been verified that he actually did 'risk lives'? And Manning's not the only security risk we've ever had, so isn't it a bit naive to assume that all the "special attention" he's received is only about ''national security''?



Actually that's not such a far leap, after hearing them publicly admit they want the President and the economy to ''fail''.
It isnt just about if indeed lives were at risk or not, imo. He didnt just release what may have been led by his conscience, he leaked a lot more than just that.

And as far as attention being received. This guy took an oath, and was trusted with highly classified information. He was supposed to be serving his country. He leaks info in droves to a website. He brought this attention on himself.

And I dont think his motivations were to simply expose something awful, I think his motivations were something more twisted. Not financial gain, but also not something that was just on his conscience either.

If I really, really ever saw material that I found to be deep on my conscience, I would have chosen may different avenues before I ever would've leaked information.

 
Old 03-03-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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[quote=Phil306;28497830. He should have been killed long ago.[/QUOTE]

Not a surprising comment considering that you're in the profession of routinely denying Americans due process. If he was on the streets of America he would probably be shot in the back by several of your comrades (cops rarely face anybody unless they outnumber them). You could do your job of hiding behind a badge and gun and being judge, jury & executioner.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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Because he is not the criminal, he exposed the criminals! He is what most of us believe our military should be, honorable! He attempted to get the press to cover the story, but they only report White House propoganda, while he wanted the public to see the truth. He is a hero! He has and will pay dearly for his bravery and courage, as his own country betrays him.

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Bradley said he was frustrated by his inability to convince his chain of command to investigate the Collateral Murder video and other “war porn” documented in the files he provided to WikiLeaks. “I was disturbed by the response to injured children.” Bradley was bothered by the soldiers depicted in the video who “seemed to not value human life by referring to [their targets] as ‘dead bastards.’” People trying to rescue the wounded were also fired upon and killed. A U.S. tank drove over one body, cutting the man in half. The actions of American soldiers shown in that video amount to war crimes under the Geneva Conventions, which prohibit targeting civilians, preventing the rescue of the wounded, and defacing dead bodies.
No one at WikiLeaks asked or encouraged Bradley to give them the documents, Bradley said. “No one associated with the WLO [WikiLeaks Organization] pressured me to give them more information. The decision to give documents to WikiLeaks [was] mine alone.”
Before contacting WikiLeaks, Bradley tried to interest the Washington Post in publishing the documents but the newspaper was unresponsive. He tried unsuccessfully to contact the New York Times.
Bradley’s actions are not unlike those of Daniel Ellsberg, whose release of the Pentagon Papers helped to expose the government’s lies and end the Vietnam War. -
The Uncommon Courage of Bradley Manning | Global Research

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Old 03-03-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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It isnt just about if indeed lives were at risk or not, imo. He didnt just release what may have been led by his conscience, he leaked a lot more than just that.

And as far as attention being received. This guy took an oath, and was trusted with highly classified information. He was supposed to be serving his country. He leaks info in droves to a website. He brought this attention on himself.

And I dont think his motivations were to simply expose something awful, I think his motivations were something more twisted. Not financial gain, but also not something that was just on his conscience either.

If I really, really ever saw material that I found to be deep on my conscience, I would have chosen may different avenues before I ever would've leaked information.
Part of serving this country is informing the people and letting them know the truth. Otherwise you may as well support Communism that censors information and rewrites history as it happens. Read 1984, that is what you are supporting.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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It isnt just about if indeed lives were at risk or not, imo. He didnt just release what may have been led by his conscience, he leaked a lot more than just that.

And as far as attention being received. This guy took an oath, and was trusted with highly classified information. He was supposed to be serving his country. He leaks info in droves to a website. He brought this attention on himself.

And I dont think his motivations were to simply expose something awful, I think his motivations were something more twisted. Not financial gain, but also not something that was just on his conscience either.

If I really, really ever saw material that I found to be deep on my conscience, I would have chosen may different avenues before I ever would've leaked information.
Yep, but it goes further than what you said. The illegitimacy of the self righteous claims that he is a noble whistle blower, is that he released classified information which did not show wrongdoing. If an employee releases information about corporate unethical or illegal actions, then he is a whistle blower. If he releases information about the company's clients or research & development, then he is not a whistle blower. It is entirely irrelevant why he released the information. When the information itself does not qualify as whistle blowing, then there is no justification for releasing it. Manning simply does not qualify as a whistle blower period. A dog is not a cat. A fork is not a spoon. Bradley Manning is not a whistle blower.
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