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View Poll Results: Which of these conditions provide the easiest path for a dictator takeover?
Poverty 6 21.43%
Ignorance 12 42.86%
Lack of Arms 10 35.71%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-01-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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lack of arms in the hands of the populace.
Nonsense! Dictators have been overthrown without a shot being fired and with the populace not having access to any guns. That's called courage.

Equally prevalent, have been armed populations succumbing to dictatorships. That's called media control. Sound familiar?
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:50 AM
 
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hands down lack of arms, ask syria revolutionaries.
do not do not register your weapons.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:55 AM
 
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Nonsense! Dictators have been overthrown without a shot being fired and with the populace not having access to any guns. That's called courage.

Equally prevalent, have been armed populations succumbing to dictatorships. That's called media control. Sound familiar?
Which ones?
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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Actually I would say subservient attitudes. You can have 30 guns, they don't matter if you are a subservient person. You can be educated, it doesn't matter if you are subservient, you can be wealthy, it still wouldn't matter if you are subservient.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Exactly how Hitler did it.
Poverty was not Hitler's weapon, instilling fear against a variety of "threats" was, and most were his political enemies. And that requires ignorance.

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hands down lack of arms, ask syria revolutionaries.
do not do not register your weapons.
Yemen disproves that myth. All you really need is a bunch of ignorant bastards, that you can control on emotional ground (often religious, fearful of some boogeymen) and you've got yourself pretty good control. In fact, that was the goal of the Weimar government in Germany (1928), to put gun control laws, to disallow militant take over by private armies (and Nazis were a center piece of that).
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Taking Cuba as a separate example; you clearly need to realize that Batista was the dictator being overthrown by another "soon-to-be" ditator leading a very popular movement to oust him. Poverty would again be the culprit in that scenario.
The point about Castro remains the same. He used guns and the blood of his ignorant followers to become a dictator.

Batista was in power twice: first time through democratic elections, and second time through a military coup.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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hands down lack of arms, ask syria revolutionaries.
do not do not register your weapons.
What are you going to ask them? They have guns, which they use to wage war against the rulers. Are you going to ask them how Assad became the president/disctator? He was appointed to the position by the ruling party and the military. His father was in power before him, and he rose to power same way as Saddam Hussein, through the ranks of the Baath party by eliminating the political opposition. Lack of arms in civilian hands has absolutely nothing to do with it, since half of the people support these guys and the other half hates them. Look at how Qaddaffi played his people against each other.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Taking Cuba as a separate example; you clearly need to realize that Batista was the dictator being overthrown by another "soon-to-be" ditator leading a very popular movement to oust him. Poverty would again be the culprit in that scenario.
Not poverty, but frustration with one dictator (basically a puppet to a foreign country). The same would apply to the Iranian turmoil that put the Mullah into power. Again, nothing to do with poverty there either.
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