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Old 03-04-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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What? This doesn't make any sense. What are you trying to say.
A person that has an ongoing criminal or civil case is permitted to return here for the hearings, etc.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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GOOD WORK. I suppose the next wise step would be to propose an act called Violence against human beings?
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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It is a disadvantage if you care about living in a society where equality is valued.

You thinking that something which helps only women isn't a disadvantage only proves what I've been saying all along, that you are a bigot.

Even if you say "it isn't a disadvantage to women" you are still a bigot - why would a mother want a special category that helped women if they were abused, but not her son?

And putting women in a special category of victim for the same sort of thing that can affect men, is disempowering them as individuals - saying if a man suffered this he'd be able to handle it, but you need special help - disadvantages women by instilling a sense of inherent weakness in them.

So only a person who did not care about victimized men even when they are members of their own family and who valued special privileges for women more than true equality for them would think this isn't a disadvantage.
Women are not treated equally. They're massacred at the hands of men. Next topic?
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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I would say this post is a great demonstration as to why the violence against women act is still necessary.

The poster thinks it's ok that outbursts occasionally 'manifest physically".

He also advocates death for any woman who collects child support for a child that is not hers in another thread.

I rest my case.
That poster is one of the very few I have on "Ignore", simply because he is so offensive.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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That poster is one of the very few I have on "Ignore", simply because he is so offensive.
I've come to the realization that he's disturbed. Quite a few on here are.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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I would say this post is a great demonstration as to why the violence against women act is still necessary.

The poster thinks it's ok that outbursts occasionally 'manifest physically".

He also advocates death for any woman who collects child support for a child that is not hers in another thread.

I rest my case.
I advocate killing a woman who extorts child support out of a man with a child not genetically his. If a woman doesn't want to be killed, she shouldn't stoop that low. Not much good VAWA does for a dead woman.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:49 PM
 
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I advocate killing a woman who extorts child support out of a man with a child not genetically his. If a woman doesn't want to be killed, she shouldn't stoop that low. Not much good VAWA does for a dead woman.
I'm telling you, your posts must be on the list of 'most viewed' at the NSA.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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After a year-long delay, the House finally voted 286-138 to pass the Violence Against Women Act. The newly passed legislation creates and expands federal programs to assist local communities with law enforcement and aiding victims of domestic and sexual abuse.


Originally passed in 1994 and reauthorized since, the act provides support for organizations that serve male or female domestic violence victims. On average, three women a day die at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends. Apparently 138 Republicans don't think that's a problem.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/01/us...anted=all&_r=0
How is this going to change that? Wasn't murder already illegal?
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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How is this going to change that? Wasn't murder already illegal?
What is the disadvantage for women in having the VAWA? I still can't get an answer from anyone against it. I'm waiting for a response.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:35 PM
 
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What is the disadvantage for women in having the VAWA? I still can't get an answer from anyone against it. I'm waiting for a response.
The disadvantage is that it does not treat all victims equally, address violence and increases the woman's risk of homicide when they are in a violent relationship. It does seem to decrease the man's risk of dying so it isn't an entirely horrible bill. The opposition to this particular bill was additions that granted visa's to non-citizens, jurisdictional changes relating to crimes on native American land, changes in the definition of abuse, and a few other changes that have already been addressed earlier in the thread. When republicans introduced versions or amended acts that attempted to address fraud, duplicate programs, constitutional jurisdiction, false accusations, and program effectiveness they are usually voted down.
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