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View Poll Results: Regulations on the right to vote and/or the right to bear arms. Do you support one, the other or bot
I would support both if they were tied together 6 50.00%
I only support regulations on gun rights 3 25.00%
I only support regulations on voting rights 3 25.00%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-02-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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Has anyone ever used a vote to kill dozens in a movie theater,mall,school,etc.?
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Has anyone ever used a vote to kill dozens in a movie theater,mall,school,etc.?
The consequences from voting has indirectly resulted in billions of deaths.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Inadequate choices. Sorry, I can not participate.
IMO, voting should require a picture ID. This can be a Federal or state issued ID card. The state issued card could be made at the time the voter registers to vote (BEFORE the close of business on the Friday before Election Day.) IF the voter has no other means of identification (driver's license, State Liquor
Control Board Card, Costco Card, Sam's club card, etc.)
The RIGHT to own and carry a firearm is specifically enumerated in the Second Amendment
Amendment XV: The right to vote...shall not be abridged or denied...on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Amendment XXIV: The right...to vote... for the President or Vice president, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senators or Representatives in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged...by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or any other tax. (hmmm...Does that mean that a poll tax or other tax CAN be required to vote in a STATE election?)
Amendment XIX: The right...to vote...shall not be abridged or denied...on account of sex.
Amendment XXVI: the right...who are eighteen years of age or older...to vote shall not be abridged or denied on account of age.

So, there is nothing that prohibits requiring registration to vote, and nothing that prohibits presenting a valid identification to vote.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:22 PM
 
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Has anyone ever used a vote to kill dozens in a movie theater,mall,school,etc.?
Voting potentially affects the lives of more people than guns ever have.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:31 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Has anyone ever used a vote to kill dozens in a movie theater,mall,school,etc.?
German presidential election, 1932 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:20 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Would you support legislation calling for universal background checks on all firearm purchases nationwide if it was tied to universal nationwide voter ID legislation?


I would for regulations on neither. did not vote in your biased poll.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Voting is a privilege, a grant by government.
Gun ownership is a right, part of the right to life, and the right to defend that life.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Voting is a privilege, a grant by government.
Gun ownership is a right, part of the right to life, and the right to defend that life.

Wrong.

Voting is a right.

The 14th, 15th, 19th and 26th Amendment specifically refer to the right to vote...

And the only way to lose that right is by crime, rebellion or by the state losing its electoral voters in proportion to the percentage of voters not able to vote as long as its not due to race, gender or one of the other forbidden reason.

Anything not specifically listed as a right to people is still a right but held by the state by default or people if the state so chooses.

But if a state chooses to not allow any of its citizens to vote it loses all of its electoral votes so in effect, the citizen hold the right.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:52 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Wrong.

Voting is a right.

The 14th, 15th, 19th and 26th Amendment specifically refer to the right to vote...

And the only way to lose that right is by crime, rebellion or by the state losing its electoral voters in proportion to the percentage of voters not able to vote as long as its not due to race, gender or one of the other forbidden reason.

Anything not specifically listed as a right to people is still a right but held by the state by default or people if the state so chooses.

But if a state chooses to not allow any of its citizens to vote it loses all of its electoral votes so in effect, the citizen hold the right.

owning and using a firearm is also a right, but it does seem these days that most people have forgotten that. some people seem to think firearms are a privilege and not a right.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Wrong.
Voting is a right.
The 14th, 15th, 19th and 26th Amendment specifically refer to the right to vote...
Actually, voting is not an endowed right. If government did not exist there would be nothing to vote about.
Governments are delegated power to secure rights. They have no power to grant rights. Government "rights" are technically privileges, and wholly dependent upon government.
(Look up the four types of liberty in a legal dictionary - natural, personal, civil and political. The former two are endowments, the latter two are privileges.)
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