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Old 03-03-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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Should America be more like Scandinavia? How would it look like if we were?

What do you think?

* 5 - 6 weeks paid vacation for all workers
* Very long paid maternity/parental leave (18 months in Sweden)
* Less working hours
* Small gap between rich and poor
* Very low poverty
* Free national health care
* Free school/college
* High GDP per capita & low unemployment rate

Etc.

http://www.sweden.se/eng/Home/Work/L...ard-of-living/
1*. 5-6 weeks is too long. I do think we need it, but 3 weeks. And 5 days paid sick leave.

2*. 18 weeks is too long. 8 weeks at 100% pay.

3*. 40 hour work week is is good.

4*. The rich should make us much as they want. The poor should get educated and stop being lazy. Minimum wage is not there to make you live off.

5*. Poverty = #4*.

6*. No free National health care. Costs the tax payers too much. Nothing is free. Defeats #4 & 5.
I think we should get the ACC system that New Zealand has though.

7*. No free school/college. Nothing is free. Defeats #4 & 5.

8*. High GDP & low employment = People going to work. People being educated and experienced to fill jobs. Not rewarding people for sitting at home with welfare.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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Even the term communist is vague. Most people confuse it for a brand of communism, Marxism. In Marxism, the state often went after churches and other religious institutions. They wanted to make their ideology of worker utopia a "religion."
Sure, I was agreeing that it doesn't apply to the countries being discussed for some obvious reasons. I pointed out one.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Should America be more like Scandinavia? How would it look like if we were?

What do you think?

* 5 - 6 weeks paid vacation for all workers
* Very long paid maternity/parental leave (18 months in Sweden)
* Less working hours
* Small gap between rich and poor
* Very low poverty
* Free national health care
* Free school/college
* High GDP per capita & low unemployment rate
Back on topic, no, I do not believe the United States should be more like Scandinavia. We value our freedoms. One of those freedoms is the ability to suceed is up to the individual - not the government.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Sure, I was agreeing that it doesn't apply to the countries being discussed for some obvious reasons. I pointed out one.
There can be in theory (don't know in practice) of communist countries that fund a local church. Nothing "un communist" about it. It's not in line with Marxism but that's a different story.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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* 5 - 6 weeks paid vacation for all workers
I would dislike this. Depending on how I schedule my vacation, I get 15-16 weeks off every year.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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There can be in theory (don't know in practice) of communist countries that fund a local church. Nothing "un communist" about it. It's not in line with Marxism but that's a different story.
In theory, communism would work.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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I would dislike this. Depending on how I schedule my vacation, I get 15-16 weeks off every year.
You must be a teacher, professor, or have some cushy government job.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:13 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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In theory, communism would work.
On a small level it works all the time. On a large country like the USSR it's not going to work very well.

A form of socialism is working well for the Chinese.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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You must be a teacher, professor, or have some cushy government job.
Nope. I work 12 hour rotating shifts.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: around racist white people
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Should America be more like Scandinavia? How would it look like if we were?

What do you think?

* 5 - 6 weeks paid vacation for all workers
* Very long paid maternity/parental leave (18 months in Sweden)
* Less working hours
* Small gap between rich and poor
* Very low poverty
* Free national health care
* Free school/college
* High GDP per capita & low unemployment rate

Etc.

Salary and standard of living - SWEDEN.SE
Good question, it might have some benefits such as lower crime becuase it sounds alot like socialism but it will kill the current economy and alot of wealthy would leave and go elsewhere.

Too many people in America for that to happen though.
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