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You think this is compassionate?
I am not against DNR's, but I do have a problem with them being a requirement to being accepted into a facility. I believe it should be up to each individual and their family, with no pressure either way.
Oh, for Pete's sake...........go somewhere else if you don't like the admission rules.
It really is that simple.
O'Reilly is getting ready to bloviate about it now.
That 911 operator is the one who should be fired. She very rudely passed judgement without knowing a single detail.
A woman checks into a residence where she must first sign a statement acknowledging that no medical staff is present to treat you.
Then one day she collapses. She is still breathing, her heart is still beating.
911 is called. The dispatcher goes crazy. Listen to the audio, the dispatcher went crazy, trying to get someone to give this living and breathing woman CPR.
The ambulance arrives and loads this living woman up and goes to the hospital.
She dies at the hospital.
Some of you may insist that you would try to give CPR to a living breathing person. I would not.
I was trained NOT to give CPR, unless a person needed it. I do not care what the dispatcher was begging for. If a person has a heart beat, you DO NOT give chest compressions.
The care home's policy will not trump state or federal laws and nor will the fact that residents agreed to it. The nurse had better hope there was a DNR because otherwise could be looking at jail time. And that 911 call can be held against the nurse.
The care home's policy will not trump state or federal laws. The nurse had better hope there was a DNR because otherwise could be looking at jail time. And that 911 call can be held against the nurse.
Don't hold your breath. The lady was dead before the phone call to 911 was connected. Therefore, no harm or injury was caused.
I had a semi-funny what-if conversation with a doctor regarding DNRs. At the facility I worked in they had to have the resident or individual with POA sign the form, plus the signature of 2 doctors for it to be an accepted DNR. One MD said what if you have the signature of the patient but not the doctors? I said then you don't have one. What if you have the signature of the Patient and one doctor? Then you don't have one was my reply. There seems to be a lot of controversy her over whether this lady had a DNR or not.
I had a semi-funny what-if conversation with a doctor regarding DNRs. At the facility I worked in they had to have the resident or individual with POA sign the form, plus the signature of 2 doctors for it to be an accepted DNR. One MD said what if you have the signature of the patient but not the doctors? I said then you don't have one. What if you have the signature of the Patient and one doctor? Then you don't have one was my reply. There seems to be a lot of controversy her over whether this lady had a DNR or not.
When I am as old as 87, I can only hope that I would die as quickly and as peacefully as that lady did. The last thing I would want is some "enthusiast" jabbing my broken ribs into my liver and dying painfully.
A woman checks into a residence where she must first sign a statement acknowledging that no medical staff is present to treat you.
Then one day she collapses. She is still breathing, her heart is still beating.
911 is called. The dispatcher goes crazy. Listen to the audio, the dispatcher went crazy, trying to get someone to give this living and breathing woman CPR.
The ambulance arrives and loads this living woman up and goes to the hospital.
She dies at the hospital.
Some of you may insist that you would try to give CPR to a living breathing person. I would not.
I was trained NOT to give CPR, unless a person needed it. I do not care what the dispatcher was begging for. If a person has a heart beat, you DO NOT give chest compressions.
Very good point and it reinforces my position that I need more information before making an opinion.
Don't hold your breath. The lady was dead before the phone call to 911 was connected. Therefore, no harm or injury was caused.
Not according to the article in post #2 (you did read it didn't you?).
"Fire officials reported that the woman died at the hospital."
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