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Old 03-04-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: NC
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Being outraged without knowing exactly what happened, seriously? Interesting all the judgements without bothering to gather any facts regarding the circumstances, by some (but not all) the posts above.

We don't know all the facts yet.
  • CNN reported the woman had a DNR on file, CBS said she did not.
  • The policy was known to residents and their families, they agree when they move in.
  • Some elderly do not want to resuscitated, and presumably choose their senior living arrangements accordingly.
  • "17 News contacted the family of Lorraine Bayless. Her daughter said she has no problem with the care her mother received at Glenwood Gardens."
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The executive director of Glenwood Gardens, Jeffrey Toomer, defended the nurse's actions in a statement, saying she did indeed follow policy.

"In the event of a health emergency at this independent living community our practice is to immediately call emergency medical personnel for assistance and to wait with the individual needing attention until such personnel arrives," Toomer said in a written statement. "That is the protocol we followed."

Toomer offered condolences to the woman's family and said a "thorough internal review" of the incident would be conducted.

He told KGET-TV that residents of the home's independent living community are informed of the policy and agree to it when they move in. He said the policy does not apply at the adjacent assisted living and skilled nursing facilities.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:08 AM
 
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Media sure had fun with this.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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If the resident agreed to this policy, then that is it. The problem is the 911 operator didn't have the story and the nurse did not explain, so the operator was desperately trying to help the patient.

We don't know if the nurse was aware of the DNR at the time this happened. If she was she should have said that immediately to the operator.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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I am trying to figure out why anyone would be outraged? we have a 80 year old that died end of story. Newsflash people grow old and then they die.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I am trying to figure out why anyone would be outraged?

Some folks love to be outraged. It's what they live for and they need a daily dose. I think most of 'em listen to Limbaugh and consider him a journalist.

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Old 03-04-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: NC
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I am trying to figure out why anyone would be outraged? we have a 80 year old that died end of story. Newsflash people grow old and then they die.
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Some folks love to be outraged. It's what they live for and they need a daily dose.
Ding-ding-ding, we have a winner!!!
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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no, not even a little bit.

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The patient had a DNR (DO NOT RESUSCITATE) Order on file. Had she performed CPR, the patient or the patients family could have sued.
An official of the Facility verified that, YES, this IS the policy, the nurse must call 911 and not perform CPR.
The nurse did exactly what she was required to do!
^ and that is why.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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One of two things is giong on
1. DNR in place, no need for outrage.
2. There is confusion in the reporting... because we dont actully report anymore we just find new ways to cause outrage... and we dont have enough information to decide if something is wrong....again...no need for outrage.

OK maybe there is a third thing going on.
woman lived at in a place that had a policy in place that precludes life saving intervention by staff, no the same property owned by the same company there are two other places she COULD have lived that did have a policy that includes live saving intervention.... she chose the one WITHOUT... still... no need for outrage.


I AM OUTRAGED at the media. they deserve outrage.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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This had nothing to do with the DNR. The policy is to not do CPR on their residents, period. Why? Too fragile, don't want the liability, death frees up bed space......they're old anyway so who cares. I think it's a shame that a so called nurse was so insensitive to watching someone die. Just another day.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Originally Posted by Redraven View Post
The patient had a DNR (DO NOT RESUSCITATE) Order on file. Had she performed CPR, the patient or the patients family could have sued.
An official of the Facility verified that, YES, this IS the policy, the nurse must call 911 and not perform CPR.
The nurse did exactly what she was required to do!

Your exactly right, THE DNR must be followed exactly. But why didn't the nurse tell the 911 operator there was a DNR in place, maybe the reason for the confusion.

As far as our media reporting stories anymore, they have become pathetic.
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