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But I also hate the way the Democrats just want to legalize 10, 15, 20 million illegal aliens - who knows how many - which btw more than totally contradicts any pro-environment or pro-worker policies the Democrats used to have.
Now you see what I mean. The Dreamers have taken 50-60% of all of the coal mining jobs. Last I checked, Pittsburgh was about 50% Mexican. They are taking some of the best paying jobs away from the hardworking Americans that deserve them. The fact that you've seen the bill where Democrats support legalizing 20 million illegal aliens means you know more than the average voter.
BTW, could you find that link where Pelosi and Hillary advocated legalizing 20 million illegal aliens? I had the Breitbart article saved, but I can't find it now.
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I would support a reformed national health care system, with private insurance companies or without. But the Obama administration dropped the ball on that one and just gave us another half a$$ed bureaucratic program that we cannot afford.
Agree with you here too. The GOP and the insurance lobby had nothing to do with this one. That falls 100% on Obama. I like the way you think!
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I cannot stand the anything goes Republican position on gun control which means basically no gun control at all in some states. But I also cannot stand the attacking and blaming the police by the liberal media and far left for political reasons, 99% of the police did not shoot anyone.
Exaaaactly. When you talk to your African American friends, of which I am sure you have many, you'll notice they'll all say the police brutality stuff is all made up. I'm with you here.
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Both sides liberal and conservative, Republican and Democrat, have their good and bad ideas. Those who only pick one side only, ignore all evidence and changes that might contradict their world view, look down at the other side as totally uneducated or naïve, are blinding themselves to reality IMHO.
Couldn't agree more. This is why it makes so much sense to randomly alternate between parties.
Btw being a moderate does not mean you cannot belong to a political party and support them most of the time. It just means you do not blindly support them all the time. You can be a moderate liberal or a moderate conservative. In politics, one party is not right or wrong all the time. This is not sports where one side is good and the other side is evil, like the Giants facing the Patriots.
Why do you guys define "moderate" by partisanship rather than policy positions?
You just don't want to expose the extremism of the Left. I get it.
Says the person who can't stand to say a single thing negative about the right. Just own it This is not a "The Left is Extreme, Yo" thread. You can go start one of those.
It's one about moderates, who are presumably people who are more in the middle and can see positives and negatives to both sides. So far you have not been able to demonstrate that and want to further interject stuff about one side instead of having a more moderate discussion about both sides.
Now you see what I mean. The Dreamers have taken 50-60% of all of the coal mining jobs. Last I checked, Pittsburgh was about 50% Mexican. They are taking some of the best paying jobs away from the hardworking Americans that deserve them. The fact that you've seen the bill where Democrats support legalizing 20 million illegal aliens means you know more than the average voter.
BTW, could you find that link where Pelosi and Hillary advocated legalizing 20 million illegal aliens? I had the Breitbart article saved, but I can't find it now.
Agree with you here too. The GOP and the insurance lobby had nothing to do with this one. That falls 100% on Obama. I like the way you think!
Exaaaactly. When you talk to your African American friends, of which I am sure you have many, you'll notice they'll all say the police brutality stuff is all made up. I'm with you here.
Couldn't agree more. This is why it makes so much sense to randomly alternate between parties.
Wow, all this attacking other posters, does someone need a little naptime?
Regarding illegal aliens, they are not coming here to just hang out are they? They are (mostly) coming here to work, which means more competition for workers and also more competition for housing. Legalizing them will make the competition worse and also add hugely to the welfare, medical and education costs, especially so many of them are uneducated. And then they will start bringing over their own families, which is why legalizing illegal aliens will result in far more then the 12 million that they were saying 10 years ago.
Both parties are in bed with the insurance industry and get donations from it. Its one of the reasons medical reform is so difficult. In fact, Hillary Clinton was by far #1 in donations from pharmaceuticals, more then twice as much as the next candidate Jeb Bush.
The police brutality stuff is NOT made up but how to you propose to end it in a country of 300 million people and over 1 million police officers? Football players kneeling before the American flag? The answer is you can't, you might be able to reduce it but you will never be able to completely end it. And btw, police officers also shoot White, Hispanic and Asians people as well. But you would never know that from the media coverage which seemed more designed to inflame people's passions then to discuss the issue.
Now you may return to your one party paradise called "Crooklyn".
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This is not a "The Left is Extreme, Yo" thread. You can go start one of those.
The answer is you can't, you might be able to reduce it but you will never be able to completely end it. And btw, police officers also shoot White, Hispanic and Asians people as well. But you would never know that from the media coverage which seemed more designed to inflame people's passions then to discuss the issue. 