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Old 03-08-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm not holding my breath, but imagine if a grassroots effort led to moderate independents winning in all open seats one election, such that neither Democrats or Republicans held a majority. What would that do to campaign finance, special interests?
That would be refreshing.

 
Old 03-08-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Are there any moderate independents on this board?
Yes.

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Old 03-08-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Independent is someone who doesn't support either the Republicans or Democrats, and a moderate is someone who is willing to compromise on issues and doesn't take a hard stance whether right or left.
I resemble ^ remark.

I have zero, zip, nada, loyalty to any party.
I appreciate balance and compromise.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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Who was the last Republican you voted for?
I bet money, you didn't even vote for now Democrat Cristi.
And this kind of "you're a RINO" thing is why a good chunk of moderate independents are former moderate R's. They've ditched any loyalty to the party.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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The only people who use that term are supposed Independents that always vote Republican. They may not claim a party membership, but they listen to a lot of talk radio, read terrible blogs as news sources and never, ever, ever vote D.
I disagree. You're right that "constitutionalists" are often independents, but they don't call themselves moderates--they call themselves really conservative.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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I'm not holding my breath, but imagine if a grassroots effort led to moderate independents winning in all open seats one election, such that neither Democrats or Republicans held a majority. What would that do to campaign finance, special interests?
Both the major parties have always been madeup of speical interest groups .They createde the aprties. Same as mnay smaller parties are made up of one or more speical interest. As to what is moderate.Certain not the two majoe parties form the past. just generally lokig at both i the past they would now be considered preety far tot eh right of center by what they actauly did when in office.even clinto said that in his time the US was a rioght of center majority and thus said you can not govera form the left.Itsd based on you have to have consent of the governed to actually govern effectively.That is why a supore majority that has no support form a near mnority is doomed to creat only continuing conflact and wha= polirics is defined as the art of compromise.Take for examle the new healthcare law veus Bush's medicaire prescritption drug bill. The latter was a comprmise which gather support from both aprties and votes. Its not really that continous a issue now. The healthcare law had no in put allow i comitte by apponents and now is.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:01 PM
 
Location: NC
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Independant and moderate are two different things as Independents tend to vote Republican while moderates tend to vote Democratic. Moderate tends to mean someone who is moderate. Independent sometimes means someone who thinks the GOP is full of sellouts and liberals.

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/res...ent#exit-polls
 
Old 03-08-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Independant and moderate are two different things as Independents tend to vote Republican while moderates tend to vote Democratic. Moderate tends to mean someone who is moderate. Independent sometimes means someone who thinks the GOP is full of sellouts and liberals.

Presidential Race - 2012 Election Center - Elections & Politics from CNN.com
That's really a matter of how you define the two. Many see them more or less the same.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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You are hard right or hard left if your positions on issues are defined by the party. Look around on this board, and you will see a lot of people who side with the party line 100% of the time. If a new issues comes up, they will say nothing until they hear what the party line is, and then they defend that view to tooth and nail. That mentality demonstrates complete inability to think for oneself. Typically an independent can support viewpoints from either side. For example, an independent can freely admit being pro-life, and anti-gun at the same time, where a hard right/left person could never do that.
So i could call myself a moderate independent
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