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Old 03-04-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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So the best defense we have from C-D Conservatives is "Yeah Obama said he'd compromise, but he's probably lying."
He said in his State of the Union address last year that he was going to send the justice dept after the bankers that caused the crash.

He just forgot?
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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If you punch me in my nose and I tell someone my nose is bleeding, i am not "bashing" the assaulter.

The assualted are allowed to questoin the motives and the character of the attacker.
If you are ok with it - then you should be aware that it works both ways. President Obama has been under attack from the rabid right since he took office.

Certainly I question the motives of the republicans in office today.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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1) The Senate doesn't put out budgets or appropriations. That's the job of the House.
2) Expiring temporary cuts are not a tax raise.
3) The House has passed a lot of bills they called "budgets" which included everything from ending funding for the AMA, to restrictions on abortion and all matter of non-budget related matters.
4) They did, in agreement with the House leadership as a way of forcing a compromise. We wouldn't be here if the political theater of the debt ceiling debate hadn't occurred, or if Ryan and other House Republicans hadn't killed the Simpson-Bowles Plan.

You can have your own opinion about things, but you can't have your own facts.
Speaking of making up ones own facts.

"The Senate doesn't put out budgets or appropriation

"The House and Senate Budget Committees begin consideration of the President's budget proposals in February and March. Other committees with budgetary responsibilities submit requests and estimates to the Budget committees during this time. The Budget committees each submit a budget resolution by April 1. The House and Senate each consider those budget resolutions and are expected to pass them, possibly with amendments, by April 15. Budget resolutions specify funding levels for appropriations committees and subcommittees.

Appropriations committees, starting with allocations in the budget resolution, put together appropriations bills, which may be considered in the House after May 15. Once appropriations committees pass their bills, they are considered by the House and Senate. A conference committee is typically required to resolve differences between House and Senate bills.

United States budget process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


EACH House is required to submit a budget.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Speaking of making up ones own facts.

"The Senate doesn't put out budgets or appropriation

"The House and Senate Budget Committees begin consideration of the President's budget proposals in February and March. Other committees with budgetary responsibilities submit requests and estimates to the Budget committees during this time. The Budget committees each submit a budget resolution by April 1. The House and Senate each consider those budget resolutions and are expected to pass them, possibly with amendments, by April 15. Budget resolutions specify funding levels for appropriations committees and subcommittees.

Appropriations committees, starting with allocations in the budget resolution, put together appropriations bills, which may be considered in the House after May 15. Once appropriations committees pass their bills, they are considered by the House and Senate. A conference committee is typically required to resolve differences between House and Senate bills.

United States budget process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


EACH House is required to submit a budget.
Per you link, each House is expected to pass a budget.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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Per you link, each House is expected to pass a budget.
The House and Senate are indeed both supposed to submit a resolution and then pass a budget. The House has done that.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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its an ole fashioned 5th century style...with commandments precepts and doctrines, fear and shunning...even that pulpit thing...amazing, rest assured there is no liberal.

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Old 03-04-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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He said in his State of the Union address last year that he was going to send the justice dept after the bankers that caused the crash.

He just forgot?
And? Is that something that Republicans said they wanted that he didn't give them? No. It's something that Republicans have opposed since the crash. If anything that shows he's more than willing to give Republicans what they want.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:03 PM
 
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all a drag ....every month or so its another big mess.

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Old 03-04-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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If you are ok with it - then you should be aware that it works both ways. President Obama has been under attack from the rabid right since he took office.

Certainly I question the motives of the republicans in office today.

Sorry Ringo, Mr Obama came into office with super majorities in both the House and Senate. He was utterly in control passing sweeping legislation with ZERO votes, and ZERO input from Republicans.

To suggest that HE was under attack since he took office is to suggest that the Ocean is under attack when a single monkey tinkles into it.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:17 PM
 
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And? Is that something that Republicans said they wanted that he didn't give them? No. It's something that Republicans have opposed since the crash. If anything that shows he's more than willing to give Republicans what they want.
It shows he will say whatever he has to, to get you to vote for him and then he'll dump on you and you'll ask him to do it again.
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