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Old 03-07-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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Name one specific cut to a program Obama favors, how much is the cut and specifically where is the cut going to happen
Spending Savings from Superlative CPI with protections for vulnerable $130(billions)

That is chain CPI a cut to social security. I know reality.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ucketed_r8.pdf
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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Cut 85 billion from a 3.6 trillion dollar budget and we leave in 700 million for wine tasting while cutting white house tours. At least we can now see what is important to Obama
Where are you getting those numbers, because I haven't seen them? Is the 700 million a marketing program to help develop and expand markets for small vineyards? Is it the budget for the small farm marketing program itself? I'd appreciate a link. If you want to cut it out so be it, but call it what it is--it's not 700 million for "wine tasting."

Those small farm programs and conferences are created to help small farmers create markets so they can stay in business. Right now major corporations control most of the markets in many areas of agriculture, so the only way for small farmers to be able to sell their products is by focusing on alternative products sold through niche markets. USDA programs provide technical support to farmers from producing the actual crop to processing, marketing and distribution. It's not uncommon for selected industries to highlight their niche products (like wine) at these types of conferences. It's a very pro-small business development program, so OF COURSE the "new" republicans are going to complain about it without understanding what it does, just so they can *itch about the President. You're going to scream and complain about helping actual job creators and providing the resources to jump start business.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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Ok, another conservative conspiracy theory involving President Obama. Lol that is all you have left.

Look go read some independent analysis of the sequestration, reality is easy to find.

The sequestration cuts were discussed as taking a meat cleaver to the budget that some services would be cut, that those cuts would be dumb. Now that it is happening, oh it is a conspiracy by President Obama. LOL
All I have left?? That is what he's doing. Pay attention. The cuts were put in place fifteen months ago. Obama didn't order anyone in the government to prepare for said cuts that he signed off on. Now according to obama's campaign tour the this meager cut will cause half the country to shut down. At least that is the propoganda he is spewing. Your meat cleaver analogy is ridiculous. There is no actual cut. These are cuts to budget increases. Go find an independent analysis on that it's easy to find.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Spending Savings from Superlative CPI with protections for vulnerable $130(billions)

That is chain CPI a cut to social security. I know reality.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...ucketed_r8.pdf
No specifics in that list.
For instance
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what subsidies will he eliminate
Changing CPI index will definitely cut back on money going or the elderly. There is no way to know that changing the CPI will save 200 million .Could be much more or much less
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Where are you getting those numbers, because I haven't seen them? Is the 700 million a marketing program to help develop and expand markets for small vineyards? Is it the budget for the small farm marketing program itself? I'd appreciate a link. If you want to cut it out so be it, but call it what it is--it's not 700 million for "wine tasting."

Those small farm programs and conferences are created to help small farmers create markets so they can stay in business. Right now major corporations control most of the markets in many areas of agriculture, so the only way for small farmers to be able to sell their products is by focusing on alternative products sold through niche markets. USDA programs provide technical support to farmers from producing the actual crop to processing, marketing and distribution. It's not uncommon for selected industries to highlight their niche products (like wine) at these types of conferences. It's a very pro-small business development program, so OF COURSE the "new" republicans are going to complain about it without understanding what it does, just so they can *itch about the President. You're going to scream and complain about helping actual job creators.
Cutting out white house tours is a much better idea then cutting waste..liberal mentality
Obama thinks cutting whitehouse tours will be blamed on republicans , yet he is the one that cut the tours.He went a bridge to far
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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Her is the gist of it. Many folks are tired of seeing their tax dollars wasted away on ridiculous things by the government. Instead of cutting the ridiculous items our dear leader has decided to cut things that taxpayer dollars should actually be used for, not in all cases but in many cases. All to prove his ridiculous point that a cut in budget increases is impossible to achieve and to achieve it Americans will have to hurt. This is all just conditioning folks to howl at the moon when actual cuts are proposed so they won't be implemented. And on cue liberals will bark like rabid dogs at how evil conservatives hate everybody for proposing any real cuts. You swooners are being played like a fiddle but not smart enough to realize it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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Cutting out white house tours is a much better idea then cutting waste..liberal mentality
Obama thinks cutting whitehouse tours will be blamed on republicans , yet he is the one that cut the tours.He went a bridge to far
Obama is barely catching any heat for allowing drone strikes on US soil of citizens. You think the liberal bed wetters will blame him for canceling tours of the big house? He could kill their entire families with said drone strike and they would still blame Bush if that wast the talking point sent out to these air breathers.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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Cutting out white house tours is a much better idea then cutting waste..liberal mentality
Obama thinks cutting whitehouse tours will be blamed on republicans , yet he is the one that cut the tours.He went a bridge to far
So now you're changing the subject from the dept. of Ag again? You keep talking about cutting waste vs. the White House tours, but do you know what other cuts are being made in the DOJ? When you have a list demonstrating the $1.6 billion in "waste" that the DOJ had that would be cut before they'd cut out security for tourism, then I'll listen. Until then, this is ridiculous.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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Where are you getting those numbers, because I haven't seen them? Is the 700 million a marketing program to help develop and expand markets for small vineyards? Is it the budget for the small farm marketing program itself? I'd appreciate a link. If you want to cut it out so be it, but call it what it is--it's not 700 million for "wine tasting."
Those are the basic numbers for the budget and sequester that have been reported everywhere.

$3.6 Trillion is the annual budget (although I use that word loosely since we don't actually have one)

$85 billion is the amount being "cut" by the sequester, although nothing is really being cut because spending is still going to be higher in 2013 than it was in 2012.

This is pretty basic stuff that any one posting on sequester threads should know before posting.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Those are the basic numbers for the budget and sequester that have been reported everywhere.

$3.6 Trillion is the annual budget (although I use that word loosely since we don't actually have one)

$85 billion is the amount being "cut" by the sequester, although nothing is really being cut because spending is still going to be higher in 2013 than it was in 2012.

This is pretty basic stuff that any one posting on sequester threads should know before posting.
I'm talking about the $700M line item for "wine tasting" that the post was describing--not the overall budget amounts by department and in total. My question was if it was a marketing program for vineyards, or if it was the budget of the small ag marketing program, and what exactly was involved in that 700 million if it exists at all. You would know that if you'd read the question.
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