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Old 03-12-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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What's the difference using drones or FBI sharpshooters? If Timothy McVey was known to be on a road with a truck full of explosives intent upon blowing up a building, would the use of a drone to stop him been appropriate?
There is no difference apart from collateral damage. Read what I said. I specifically said the drone itself isn't the issue. It's the use of the drone when there isn't an imminent attack that is the issue.

So asking me what the difference is between a rifle and a drone to foil an imminent attack isn't relevant. Neither one is the point.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why doesn't he just introduce "Terrorist Protection Program" and make a law out of it.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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First off deadly force would only be authorized if the driver posed an imminent threat.
We already do that. Why is it that the president needs to be able to do it with absolutely no oversight?
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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The Obama administration has never argued that they have the authority to drone strike someone who is just driving to Walmart for socks.
For months they refused to discuss what their position was at all.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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It's absolutely true - google "signature" strikes.
Sen. Paul's question was about attacks inside the United States borders. Has anyone performed, authorized or claimed the right to perform "signature" strikes within the borders of the United States?
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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We already do that. Why is it that the president needs to be able to do it with absolutely no oversight?
Does Federal Law enforcement or Military operate without oversight?
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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For months they refused to discuss what their position was at all.
And Sen. Paul started his filibuster about the use of drones within the borders of the United States after he got his answer from AG Holder. Holder's response was within the bounds of long standing U.S. laws on the use of deadly force.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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Does Federal Law enforcement or Military operate without oversight?
No, it seems only the president claims he can.

It seems that even the Dems have had enough.

Obama Administration Must Release Full Report On 'Legal Rationale' For Drone Strikes, House Democrats Say
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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And Sen. Paul started his filibuster about the use of drones within the borders of the United States after he got his answer from AG Holder. Holder's response was within the bounds of long standing U.S. laws on the use of deadly force.
One should know that just because someone can make a claim on the internet it does not make that claim factual.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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Sen. Paul's question was about attacks inside the United States borders. Has anyone performed, authorized or claimed the right to perform "signature" strikes within the borders of the United States?

The Obama doctrine claims the right, it does not preclude signature strikes anywhere in the world.
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