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I've thought about this from time to time. A conservative government comes in and focuses on the private sector and makes money. Then a liberal government comes along and says we've got all this money and people need things, so they spend the money. Then when the money is gone they lose popularity and another conservative government gets elected to improve the economy. Once things are rolling again,the Democrats will come along to say why aren't people getting their fair share of the wealth and the cycle will start again.
But ofcourse that is not the situation in CA, as you misleadingly try to paint here - CA had a Republican Governor for 8 years before Jerry Brown, and enough Republicans in state house to cause obstruction. For 8 years Republicans made CA suffer. In 2011, Jerry Brown a Democrat was elected governor, the D's got a supermajority in 2012, and now there is a balanced budget and entrepreneurial activity is exploding in the Bay Area
But ofcourse that is not the situation in CA, as you misleadingly try to paint here - CA had a Republican Governor for 8 years before Jerry Brown, and enough Republicans in state house to cause obstruction. For 8 years Republicans made CA suffer. In 2011, Jerry Brown a Democrat was elected governor, the D's got a supermajority in 2012, and now there is a balanced budget and entrepreneurial activity is exploding in the Bay Area
Good response. The facts allude some of these people. They will just keep repeating whatever Sean Hannity tells them without questioning it at all. They are drones.
But ofcourse that is not the situation in CA, as you misleadingly try to paint here - CA had a Republican Governor for 8 years before Jerry Brown, and enough Republicans in state house to cause obstruction. For 8 years Republicans made CA suffer. In 2011, Jerry Brown a Democrat was elected governor, the D's got a supermajority in 2012, and now there is a balanced budget and entrepreneurial activity is exploding in the Bay Area
They dems had a supermajority for like 2 months in 2013, they can't pass anything until a budget is done. They don't have a supermajority any more. The fake balance budget from January won't hold up, even with the tax increase in 2012. We will see what the budget looks like in July, my guess more cuts.
A state that depends on Facebook ipo to balance a budget isn't doing it right.
And the only reason the budget got passed on time the last two years is the prop that docked legislator pay if the budget was not signed on time.
California deserves anything it gets. It's got plenty of money apparently, even while some Americans are suffering, the politicians manage to reward those who are here illegally with free college now --- even while many Americans cannot afford it.
Huh. Do all libertarians enjoy fantasizing about the mass murder of fellow citizens whose politics they happen not to agree with?
I guess that's why I'm not a libertarian.
No I fantasize of living in a society where people can make their own choices, not in one where the gov't makes them for me. Social liberals are a contradiction to themselves. You cannot stand for freedom and tyranny at the same time.
Last edited by Ratherbefishing; 03-08-2013 at 01:30 AM..
But ofcourse that is not the situation in CA, as you misleadingly try to paint here - CA had a Republican Governor for 8 years before Jerry Brown, and enough Republicans in state house to cause obstruction. For 8 years Republicans made CA suffer. In 2011, Jerry Brown a Democrat was elected governor, the D's got a supermajority in 2012, and now there is a balanced budget and entrepreneurial activity is exploding in the Bay Area
I didn't "misleadingly try to paint" anything. I quoted one part of a message and made a general comment about it. It had nothing to do with California.
Despite Positive Outlook, Caution Is Appropriate. Our multiyear budget forecast depends on a number of key economic, policy, and budgetary assumptions. For example, we assume steady growth in the economy and stock prices. We also assume—as the state’s recent economic forecasts have—that federal officials take actions to avoid the near-term economic problems associated with the so-called “fiscal cliff.” Consistent with state law, our forecast omits cost-of-living adjustments for most state departments, the courts, universities, and state employees. The forecast also assumes no annual transfers into a state reserve account provided by Proposition 58 (2004). Changes in these assumptions could dramatically lower—or even eliminate—our projected out-year operating surpluses.
Considering Future Budget Surpluses. If, however, a steady economic recovery continues and the Legislature and the Governor keep a tight rein on state spending in the next couple of years, there is a strong likelihood that the state will have budgetary surpluses in subsequent years. The state has many choices for what to do with these surpluses. We advise the state’s leaders to begin building the reserve envisioned by Proposition 58 (2004) as soon as possible. Beyond building a reserve, the state must develop strategies to address outstanding retirement liabilities—particularly for the teachers’ retirement system—and other liabilities. The state will also be able to selectively restore recent program cuts—particularly in Proposition 98 programs (based on steady projected growth in the minimum guarantee).
In other words we'll have budget surpluses as long as nothing occurs and you don't count a whole bunch of stuff that should be counted because it shows how truly dire our state's economy is.
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