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Old 03-11-2013, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Originally Posted by scarabchuck View Post
How are you so sure that the cops are lying ? If and that is a big if, he did not have a gun I feel for his family even though he was well on his way to the "thug" life. The police should be held accountable if it was a mistake.
If he did have a gun, well then that's one less thug of the street. I'm sure his family is sad for the loss but that is about it. Where is your empathy for the police ? They have to deal with this $hit on a daily basis. Really we can't even debate this until the facts come out.
That is true, and the foxes will investigate themselves. That's the problem.

 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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It's really simple: If he pointed a gun at the cops, then their reaction is justified. You can't point a firearm at a cop and expect to walk away unscathed.

What really stands out to me is this line: "Kimani’s friends would not say exactly what caused the officers to fire on the gunman."

Then there's the lack of denial that the gun recovered came from Kimani. There's "he wouldn't have a gun" coming from the family, but nobody at the scene is coming forward to deny the revolver recovered at the scene or call it out as a fake or plant. Several stated that they didn't know he was armed - which translates to "Yeah, the gun is his... but we didn't know he even had it!"
 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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of course a gun was found, but cops carry 'throw downs'. So that doesn't prove anything.
The kids friends with him at the time say he had a gun. This has been mentioned repeatedly.
 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by gallowsCalibrator View Post
It's really simple: If he pointed a gun at the cops, then their reaction is justified. You can't point a firearm at a cop and expect to walk away unscathed.

What really stands out to me is this line: "Kimani’s friends would not say exactly what caused the officers to fire on the gunman."

Then there's the lack of denial that the gun recovered came from Kimani. There's "he wouldn't have a gun" coming from the family, but nobody at the scene is coming forward to deny the revolver recovered at the scene or call it out as a fake or plant. Several stated that they didn't know he was armed - which translates to "Yeah, the gun is his... but we didn't know he even had it!"
eh, that's ok. there are plenty of posters here more than willing to take up the slack on that one.
 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Originally Posted by scarabchuck View Post
How are you so sure that the cops are lying ? If and that is a big if, he did not have a gun I feel for his family even though he was well on his way to the "thug" life. The police should be held accountable if it was a mistake.
If he did have a gun, well then that's one less thug of the street. I'm sure his family is sad for the loss but that is about it. Where is your empathy for the police ? They have to deal with this $hit on a daily basis. Really we can't even debate this until the facts come out.
Were their lips moving?
 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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“He got shot six times, and the police didn’t get shot once,” fumed great-aunt Brenda Nunez of the shooting of Kimani “Kiki” Gray of East Flatbush.

“They didn’t get injured. This cannot go like this. This is murder!”
huh. i guess the cops are supposed to wait until they get shot and injured before returning fire
 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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The kids friends with him at the time say he had a gun. This has been mentioned repeatedly.
by you, and I keep asking you to show me. Provide the quote, give me the statement, prove it. I believe you are making that up.
 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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huh. i guess the cops are supposed to wait until they get shot and injured before returning fire
returning fire? Nobody shot at them.
 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by scarabchuck View Post
How are you so sure that the cops are lying ? If and that is a big if, he did not have a gun I feel for his family even though he was well on his way to the "thug" life. The police should be held accountable if it was a mistake.
If he did have a gun, well then that's one less thug of the street. I'm sure his family is sad for the loss but that is about it. Where is your empathy for the police ? They have to deal with this $hit on a daily basis. Really we can't even debate this until the facts come out.
SMH, how can you say he was on his way to the "thug life" do you know Kimani? Other this article do you anything about him? No, so stop with the ridiculous assumptions. The police should be held accountable and tried no matter what, btw the witnesses said they did not know he had a gun, you do know police plant everything from drugs to guns on victims.

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Originally Posted by gallowsCalibrator View Post
It's really simple: If he pointed a gun at the cops, then their reaction is justified. You can't point a firearm at a cop and expect to walk away unscathed.

What really stands out to me is this line: "Kimani’s friends would not say exactly what caused the officers to fire on the gunman."

Then there's the lack of denial that the gun recovered came from Kimani. There's "he wouldn't have a gun" coming from the family, but nobody at the scene is coming forward to deny the revolver recovered at the scene or call it out as a fake or plant. Several stated that they didn't know he was armed - which translates to "Yeah, the gun is his... but we didn't know he even had it!"
Lack of denial from the police, of course they won't come clean cause they have supporters like you who don't question the motives behind these lowlife pigs. If you was not there at the scene than how do you know he pointed the gun at the cops? You don't.
 
Old 03-11-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by claudhopper View Post
returning fire? Nobody shot at them.
did i say someone did?

do you agree with the great-aunt that i quoted?
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