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Old 03-11-2013, 07:37 PM
 
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Haha, you birther butt****ers are like the gift that keeps on giving. The sheer volume of stupidity you dumbasses spew out is a never ending source of amusement.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:53 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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A man who wants to implement a Christian theocracy in the U.S. is in no position to argue the constitutionality of anything.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:54 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Yes, that is why they were grandfathered in as presidents. The first few presidents weren't natural born Citizens. That was the only time a born-Citizen could be president until a U.S. natural born Citizen became eligible later on.
Andrew Jackson was the 7th president of the USA. He served from 1829 to 1837. Not quite after the revolutionary war.

From the looks of it, 'natural born citizen' was never precisely defined anywhere. Mr. Titus just assumes it means two parents, in many countries it goes by blood (which is impossible to do for the USA) or the mother. Why do we privilege a father/mother as natural born citizens when it's not stated anywhere that this is how it has to be?
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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Clearly obvious by the childish insults of the messenger, for lack of knowledge to debate.
The Gate Keepers don't like it when the truth comes out. The 14th amendment had to modify the original language of the Constitution, to make it work.
We can clearly see the consequences of those actions and the logic of the founding fathers when the Constitution was ratified. The 1st generation is not pure. You see it today with anchor babies and their loyalty to Mexico, more than the USA........... Tell me I'm wrong.
you're wrong.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Andrew Jackson was the 7th president of the USA. He served from 1829 to 1837. Not quite after the revolutionary war.
Right. But he was born in 1767, before American Independence. So he was not a natural born citizen. They first of those was #8, Martin Van Buren, born in 1782.

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From the looks of it, 'natural born citizen' was never precisely defined anywhere. Mr. Titus just assumes it means two parents, in many countries it goes by blood (which is impossible to do for the USA) or the mother. Why do we privilege a father/mother as natural born citizens when it's not stated anywhere that this is how it has to be?
Actually, Titus is on even weirder and shakier ground than that. He does not care what either American or English law says. He actually believes "natural born citizen" is a Biblical term.

I'm not making this up. Here's what he said in an interview on Voice of Christian Youth's Crosstalk back in January of 2012:

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What’s important is to realize that being a natural born citizen is based upon the law of nature. Any natural law is based on a law of nature which is revealed by God. And the notion is that no one is accidentally born in any particular nation to any particular parent. You’re not born by accident, you’re born by design. And who’s the designer? Well, God’s the designer. So if you’re born of two parents, that is a mother and father, who are of the same citizenship, then you have been ordained by God to be a citizen of the nation of your parents. That’s why he’s a natural born citizen. So, there’s a design in this that goes all the way back to scriptural principles.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:05 AM
 
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That's because Tea Party Ted is the same person as Old Army Soldier. Compare the paragraph on the first post here:



To the paragraph on the post you linked to just before this:



Nice try Old Army Steve, but if you are going to be so lazy as to not to even try to paraphrase your old cut and pastes, it doesn't make the game that much fun.
Surprisingly, Tea Party Ted/Old Army Soldier, etc, has not posted anything for a while. I suppose he or she is planning a new persona.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I wasn't expecting this thread to be this funny, I was wrong.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:22 AM
 
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Only thing that matters:

Either you were born on American US territory or you were not! No gray areas. Just stop.
Wrong. Just stop!
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Surprisingly, Tea Party Ted/Old Army Soldier, etc, has not posted anything for a while. I suppose he or she is planning a new persona.
Nah. He's just spending his time on Free Republic as "Cold Case Posse Supporter."

But you know what's funny? When he posted on The Fogbow as "Retired Army Msgt." he was black.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:26 AM
 
Location: NC
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Right. But he was born in 1767, before American Independence. So he was not a natural born citizen. They first of those was #8, Martin Van Buren, born in 1782.


Actually, Titus is on even weirder and shakier ground than that. He does not care what either American or English law says. He actually believes "natural born citizen" is a Biblical term.

I'm not making this up. Here's what he said in an interview on Voice of Christian Youth's Crosstalk back in January of 2012:



And what is scary is that a sizeable minority goes along with his views for this country.
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