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And, never mind that ObamaCare cuts 16M out of Medicare!
Ryan is right when he says we are headed for trouble, and reducing the standard of living for our children. Something must be done, and everyone knows it.
Ryan's plan is to balance the budget. That is what we need. We cannot continue on the path we are on. We are head to ruin.
His budget also calls for the full repeal of ObamaCare. We need to do that. ObamaCare is far too costly. Further, it won't work, and it will destroy health care in this country. It has already resulted in costs of insurance skyrocketing.
ObamaCare is unsustainable. It is pie in the sky nonsense. It won't work, and it will result in inferior care for all Americans.
Jay Carney lies again, claiming Republicans "have already voted 30 times to repeal ObamaCare." This is a bald faced lie. They have done nothing of the sort. There may have been one vote.
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This freakin mantal disease obsession about the government debt is just beyond any stupid insanity I have seen or heard coming from the USA in 50 years of watching things there.
The fact that you have typed this disqualifies you from being taken serious. If it needs to be explained to you the importance of operating within a budget and that this is not a joke or something to be taken lightly, then you are profoundly ignorant on matters of fiscal prudence.
Ryan got that job because he knows whats best. no one can sit down and argue against the scheme with something better, plus he's anti politician baloney rip offs and so called deals....yuh gotta go with the honesty and ability or continue what we know is closing your eyes and crossing your fingers knowing you are going over the cliff with obama yet again.
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This freakin mantal disease obsession about the government debt is just beyond any stupid insanity I have seen or heard coming from the USA in 50 years of watching things there. That is really saying something because there has been some really big idiocies over the years.
It relly just boils down to one thing and one thing alone. Those at the top of the heap, those 1 or 2% of the people who have and control most of the most of the money and resources in the country don't want most of it, they want all of it.
If the USA ends up looking just like Mexico they don't give a rats azz. The 1 or 2% in Mexico do extremely well and they don't have to put up with any BS from the peons.
Talk about being brainwashed.......
The debt is real! Very real!! We are selling bonds(assets) to pay our debt. We are borrowing money to pay our debt and interest. We are printing money to a value higher than what we have in the federal reserve. Hello inflation! Talk about ignorance......
The 1-2% pay the most taxes in terms of dollar value.
This ^^ although I'd change "having problems finding middle ground" to the teavangelicals going off the deep end. We need to make serious budget cuts, but there's nothing wrong with balancing them with revenue increases that won't slow job growth.
Yah, sure. It's called having your cake, and eating it too. If you eat it, you no longer have it. If you take money out of the economy, and give it to government, well, it is no longer in the economy representing wealth creation.
What we need are massive spending cuts (reduce Federal Budget to 40% of what it is now (take your time in doing it, perhaps 3 years), and reducing the overall tax burden on the economy.
The only tax increases needed are for the 45% of Americans employees who are not paying anything, or even less, in federal taxes. They, more than anyone, need to start paying their fair share.
-Paul Ryan wants to squeeze 30 years of brutal cuts into only a decade.
Given that the Democrats claim any cuts that aren't on the military are draconian and brutal, I take this with a grain of salt.
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Or can you see why it is best to keep our Medicare system the way it is - a security net for seniors who literally can't deal with insurance companies, financially or emotionally or mentally or even physically in some cases.
No, I can't. Keeping a security net for senior citizens does not mean keeping the medicare system the way it is.
It's interesting to me that Democrats voted against Medicare Part D when a Republican proposed it because it was too expensive. So why don't they introduce a proposal to repeal Part D?
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Can we have some commonsense from Paul Ryan for a change?
Not anything you would define as common sense. You just said you want to keep medicare the way it is. That isn't common sense. Medicare is failing.
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Paul Ryan is a spoiled kid, trying to act tough on seniors, because HE has never struggled in their shoes.
And you know that how? If you really want to change minds on this issue, you should avoid petty insults.
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Reject Paul Ryan's budget for your own sake and for the sake of others.
And do what instead? Let the debt grow until it crushes the entire nation? Get up there with Nero and play the fiddle while Rome burns?
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It doesn't matter what party you belong to. This is vitally important for seniors and for families of seniors, and just for people who care. Libertarian? Independent? Republican? Unaffiliated? Who cares? This is a bi-partisan issue. Please go here if you care and reject Paul Ryan's budget. It won't mean you can't vote Republican. It just means you're communicating a concern.
This is an issue that affects everyone, yes. But your stance on it is not bipartisan. You list libertarians there but I saw nothing in your post that addressed the fact that the constitution does not permit medicare. So being "bipartisan" means accepting your position, no?
If people listen to the GOP and right wing media long enough, they begin to believe their lies. It's a scare tactic that didn't work during the 2012 election.
That isn't a lie, dude. Sorry.
And I don't see how Seniors subjected to some board of bureaucrats (IPAB) to determine if they are "worth" treating, or if they are just too old and should be left to die, helps them.
The fact is, ObamaCare is far too costly for all taxpayers, it guarantees poor medical care, and waiting lists for treatments, denial of care in many cases, and a shortage of doctors. Any clear thinking individual understands this. It couldn't possibly result in better care at lower costs. That just isn't going to happen. bureaucracy never results in better anything.
Ryan is an android that is programmed. He lost the election along with his harebrained budget ideas. This guy is not the wonk that he likes to present himself to be. He's hypocritical and no mateer how much he denies it, he is an Ayn Rand worshipper. Screw him!
And I don't see how Seniors subjected to some board of bureaucrats (IPAB) to determine if they are "worth" treating, or if they are just too old and should be left to die, helps them.
The fact is, ObamaCare is far too costly for all taxpayers, it guarantees poor medical care, and waiting lists for treatments, denial of care in many cases, and a shortage of doctors. Any clear thinking individual understands this. It couldn't possibly result in better care at lower costs. That just isn't going to happen. bureaucracy never results in better anything.
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