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Old 03-13-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Having said that, I find the people to be, well, rather "snobby." Especially Brits. They have a superiority complex, which leads them to believe they are "better" then Americans. Not just better, but smarter and more well rounded. American's, to them, are fat and lazy. They believe their system of socialization is far superior to the American way of life and their pure hated, no pure fear, of guns is astounding. Most European's forget their own violent pasts.
Which country is constantly yelling "We´re number one"?
How is that for superiority complex?
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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I've been to Europe (various countries) many times, and always enjoy myself there... can't say much about it from a political perspective, though, since I tend not to think about those things when I'm traveling. Really, I don't think much about politics outside of this forum!

All I know is that they have some beautiful countries, nice people, and an overall attitude I really like in certain parts.
LOL...i know, right.

People around here can't discuss anything without bringing their politics into it.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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So is this a travel thread? I thought it was about politics/culture in this forum.

I don't understand why so many live in Europe, dislike the US but are moving back here. Would you not do anything to live where you love? I would not live in Europe and have seen and helped people struggle to come to US from Europe to make US their home.
Well, we are the biggest job market inthe world. That attracts people no matter what they think of us. I know of people who have moved to Europe as well, so it goes both ways.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:10 AM
 
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Which country is constantly yelling "We´re number one"?
How is that for superiority complex?
I've never seen anyone do that. ???

But I have been patronized by Europeans. It's more of a subtle smirk, eye roll, and just demeaning. One can get into discussions about culture and leave the politics out but it's always there in the background. For instance, I've had foreigners ask me why I need a house on a large lot of land. Most in the US can understand a desire for privacy and space but some Europeans are actually offended by that. I don't care if one lives in the city or country or suburbs.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:50 AM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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I couldn't care less who pays for their health care system. Why should I? I guess some people can't think of anything else but politics, and they won't even travel to a country if they dont' agree with their politics. That's too bad for them.
LOL, I know. Evidently "socialists" eat children, smother kittens and worship the devil, or something. Sheesh. As if perfectly nice people can't have different political views in other countries. Xenophobia at its finest.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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I've never seen anyone do that. ???

But I have been patronized by Europeans. It's more of a subtle smirk, eye roll, and just demeaning. One can get into discussions about culture and leave the politics out but it's always there in the background. For instance, I've had foreigners ask me why I need a house on a large lot of land. Most in the US can understand a desire for privacy and space but some Europeans are actually offended by that. I don't care if one lives in the city or country or suburbs.
I'm guessing it was a cultural misunderstanding, and it wasn't about understanding or not understanding the need for privacy. Land prices are so high there that all but super rich people can't afford much land, or the McMansions that you see here, and it feeds into the stereotype that many Americans are nouveau riche, vulgar and flashy (based on some of the tourists they see at home). Where I live, it's normal for acreages (hobby farms) to be at least 20 acres for tax purposes, or at least it was when pasture land was cheaper (it's gone way up in price in the last 10 years). Twenty acres here would have been the same price as a small suburban lot in many major cities, so it's all in what you're accustomed to. I once offended a woman when we were talking about accents--she remarked that my accent was very easy to understand, and I explained that the midwest and west have neutral accents, often used by broadcasters here. Somehow she took that to be a dig on social class on my part (which often determines accents there), where here it's a simple matter of geography. I just try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt when differences arise and then carefully explain.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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I'm guessing it was a cultural misunderstanding, and it wasn't about understanding or not understanding the need for privacy. Land prices are so high there that all but super rich people can't afford much land, or the McMansions that you see here, and it feeds into the stereotype that many Americans are nouveau riche, vulgar and flashy (based on some of the tourists they see at home). Where I live, it's normal for acreages (hobby farms) to be at least 20 acres for tax purposes, or at least it was when pasture land was cheaper (it's gone way up in price in the last 10 years). Twenty acres here would have been the same price as a small suburban lot in many major cities, so it's all in what you're accustomed to. I once offended a woman when we were talking about accents--she remarked that my accent was very easy to understand, and I explained that the midwest and west have neutral accents, often used by broadcasters here. Somehow she took that to be a dig on social class on my part (which often determines accents there), where here it's a simple matter of geography. I just try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt when differences arise and then carefully explain.
That is true but these are relatives and this kind of thing went on for years until I stopped talking to them. They view themselves as superior to the eastern European side of the family and even if they are not outwardly rude they make snide little remarks and smirk. When they drink it is clear where they stand, no misunderstanding, they think they are better than Americans and pretty much everyone else.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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That is true but these are relatives and this kind of thing went on for years until I stopped talking to them. They view themselves as superior to the eastern European side of the family and even if they are not outwardly rude they make snide little remarks and smirk. When they drink it is clear where they stand, no misunderstanding, they think they are better than Americans and pretty much everyone else.
I'm thinking it sounds more like a family thing than a cultural misunderstanding. Sorry you're going through that.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:18 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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That is true but these are relatives and this kind of thing went on for years until I stopped talking to them. They view themselves as superior to the eastern European side of the family and even if they are not outwardly rude they make snide little remarks and smirk. When they drink it is clear where they stand, no misunderstanding, they think they are better than Americans and pretty much everyone else.
That is very rich coming from an American.

I'm not saying your like this but there is a stereotypes that Americans are ignorant, narrow minded and unknowing of anything outside of there borders. Not all Europeans are snobby or whatever but normal human beings trying to get on with there life just like most Americans.

I'm not going to deny but yes certainly some Europeans including Britons do look down upon America (not Americans) because of the stuff we hear including shooting outbreaks, poverty and of course the awfull healthcare but i'm sure some Americans look down upon us, Muslims, Mexicans and even blacks.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Seriously, what do Americans think of the great continent of Europe filled with old historic cities and of course Britain the ''motherland''

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I'm American but have lived in several different European countries.

I wouldn't live in Europe again unless things were really terrible here (and not terrible there), but of the ones I lived in/visited my favorite was Germany. My least favorite was the UK.

I could write a book as to why.
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