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Old 03-13-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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A 64 yr old "loner" went on a rampage in two small hamlets in upstate NY, gunning down six people, four fatally, at a local barber shop and car wash. The suspect exchanged fire with the police, then fled into a building, where he is holed up:

Police: 6 people shot, 4 fatally, at upstate NY barbershop and car wash; gunman holed up - The Washington Post

As seems to be the trend, the suspect utilized one of his collection of legally-owned firearms for this spree, rather than selecting a knife, hammer, screwdriver, baseball bat, automobile, chain saw, large rock, etc etc etc.

Ah, the price of freedom, huh guys?
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:40 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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A 64 yr old "loner" went on a rampage in two small hamlets in upstate NY, gunning down six people, four fatally, at a local barber shop and car wash. The suspect exchanged fire with the police, then fled into a building, where he is holed up:

Police: 6 people shot, 4 fatally, at upstate NY barbershop and car wash; gunman holed up - The Washington Post

As seems to be the trend, the suspect utilized one of his collection of legally-owned firearms for this spree, rather than selecting a knife, hammer, screwdriver, baseball bat, automobile, chain saw, large rock, etc etc etc.

Ah, the price of freedom, huh guys?
It is the price of freedom, welcome to America.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:41 PM
 
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So I'll take this as an admission that you want to do more than limit magazine capacity? Because NY already has a 10 round limit (same as is being proposed on the federal level).
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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So I'll take this as an admission that you want to do more than limit magazine capacity? Because NY already has a 10 round limit (same as is being proposed on the federal level).
NY has a 7 round limit actually.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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NY has a 7 round limit actually.
Yes but that was just passed. There are plenty of 10 round mags floating around I'm sure.

They have had a 10 round limit for years however.

I'd really like to hear the OP's solution. Given that these guns were legally owned and all.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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In before someone foolishly compares firearm homicides with automobile accidents.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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A 64 yr old "loner" went on a rampage in two small hamlets in upstate NY, gunning down six people, four fatally, at a local barber shop and car wash. The suspect exchanged fire with the police, then fled into a building, where he is holed up:

Police: 6 people shot, 4 fatally, at upstate NY barbershop and car wash; gunman holed up - The Washington Post

As seems to be the trend, the suspect utilized one of his collection of legally-owned firearms for this spree, rather than selecting a knife, hammer, screwdriver, baseball bat, automobile, chain saw, large rock, etc etc etc.

Ah, the price of freedom, huh guys?
And the reason for not being able to stop this person before he could have gone on the rampage? Possibly New York's tough gun laws. It's obvious that if anybody at the scene had been armed, they could have stopped this guy before he had a chance to fire the first shot.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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Too bad you're not obligated to get a microchip installed that constantly measures your sanity qoutient and we can't respond accordingly:

"Car 54, this is dispatch, we have a nut-o-meter alert at 356 Ridgeview Terrace. Roll on over and confiscate the occupants firearms, power tools, car keys and BBQ lighter". "Advise the occupant that he will have his possessions returned should subsequent mental stability testing prove his competancy to possess dangerous articles".

It is futile, there's just too many weapons out there now to have any degree of accountability towards their owners. Anyone who bought a firearm 40 years ago could now be going senile and desire a suicide by cop but take along a few innocents for his 'ride the lightning'.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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And the reason for not being able to stop this person before he could have gone on the rampage? Possibly New York's tough gun laws. It's obvious that if anybody at the scene had been armed, they could have stopped this guy before he had a chance to fire the first shot.
Aaah nuts; just more of the same bullcrap! When was the last time you sat in a barber's chair with your hogleg strapped to your thigh, in your armpit or behind your back? I'd like to see that one of you trying desperately to pull your Colt Defender from your belt with the arms of the barber chair Keeping your elbows pinned to your sides. You gonna sit there with the thing in your lap? Clint Eastwood you ain't.

The guy walks through the door and starts blasting with a shotgun no less. Short 18" barrel? Spread pattern? I'd bet that anyone in your typical street side barbershop would have worn a couple of pellets from the first couple of rounds and at that point were only interested in crawling under the nearest four year old magazine on the the floor for whatever protection they could get.

If no one on the street saw this guy and thought to call 911 while he was walking across the sidewak with his shotgun, how do you expect a bystander with a gun was going to be the game changer?

I call fail on your premise as it has been proven time and time again, even cops are taken by surprise by guys with guns and they're supposedly trained not to be surprised!
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:46 PM
 
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Oh a shotgun too? Ha.

Still waiting on an answer to my question.
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