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Old 03-13-2013, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Originally Posted by Tenured View Post
What's ironic is that the person you quoted hopped on the OP for "lack of analytical skills" and you come to the support of the OP with additional "lack of analytical skills".

Given what we know thus far, nothing in the article supports anything you said about the friends being aware it was a stolen vehicle. It is only your opinion that the friends were aware.

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.
Perhaps if you knew what you were talking about my feelings might be hurt.

 
Old 03-13-2013, 10:54 PM
 
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Perhaps if you knew what you were talking about my feelings might be hurt.
Feelings hurt? Educating you is not supposed to hurt your feelings. Sorry if it came off as offensive.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Even if they don't know it?

[how does that work?]
Too funny, I get lambasted as having no analytical skills by people who must be illiterate as well as having no critical thinking skills.

What I originally posted:
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No, the worst possible thing they may have done is actively participated in a felony, GTA.
See bold - I am not asserting they are guilty of actively participating in a felony, I am correcting someone who did assert that the 'worst thing they did was get into a car' (to paraphrase). Neither of us know if the worst thing they did was actively participate in a felony crime, but while acknowledge this, the other denies it is possible.

So no, I am not denying anyone the presumption of innocence, I am only acknowledging they may be active participants in a crime.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 11:03 PM
 
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How 2 teens survived deadly Ohio SUV crash; owner says car stolen - CBS News



Yes, kids to stupid things.

But this was several deliberate acts of negligence, stupidity, and theft. If you are going to act so irresponsibly, what do you expect?

It would have been said if they killed innocent bystander or another car. They didn't.

It's only sad for the families involved, but no one else.

These people made a conscious decision to act stupidly. As far as I am concerned, 6 criminals are off the streets (they DID steal a car).

The sooner we teach our young people that their actions ALWAYS have consequences, the sooner we will see them more successful and safe.
Man, that's cold. I'm glad I don't feel that way.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Feelings hurt? Educating you is not supposed to hurt your feelings. Sorry if it came off as offensive.
See above.

I suspect you may have too much connective tissue composed of organic protein, collagen and the inorganic mineral hydroxyapatite in your cranium.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 11:04 PM
 
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Seems pretty reasonable. Don't want to die? Don't fu*king take stuff that doesn't belong to you. Simple concept. As others said, glad no innocents were hurt. Sorry the vehicle owner's car was destroyed.
Reasonable for fascists. Thieves should be punished, but death is too extreme.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Reasonable for fascists. Thieves should be punished, but death is too extreme.
Nobody sentenced them to death . . .
 
Old 03-13-2013, 11:22 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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If you make a series of dumb decisions, you deserve the consequences.

Maybe you don't believe in the idea of personal responsibility.
Look, not making excused for bad choices... but don't you think it's a little off the deep end to be flippant about death for a bunch of joyriding kids? You act like you've been perfect your whole life.

Was what they did wrong? Yes. Very.

Did they deserve what happened? No. Of course not.

Not sure how old you are, but maybe you will have a kid one day who does something dumb - as they often do. And when that happens, will you sit back and say, "serves you right, you deserve to die?"

Kids do dumb things. That doesn't mean that they should all just offhand be condemned to death. They can be held accountable, come to realize the error of their ways, grow up, and make something of themselves.

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Old 03-13-2013, 11:27 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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They won't get the message - liberals teach children irresponsibilty in our socialist indoctrination centers(public schools).
Hate to admit it but in this day and age, your absoultely right. It is almost like today if you have a job and are responsible, your out.

Sad that young people think they are invincible, and can do anything with no consequences.

They paid big time, bet if they could do it all again, they would think twice.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Too funny, I get lambasted as having no analytical skills by people who must be illiterate as well as having no critical thinking skills.

...
I'm not lambasting you for anything.

[calm down - you're on the internet]
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