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Old 03-16-2013, 04:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by sickofnyc View Post
Will this stupidity never end??? No one that has complained about this issue has EVER presented proof that anyone is being prevented from ingesting any amount of carbonated sugar water that they desire to. If one cup is not enough, you can go back and purchase another and if you still want more you can purchase another and another and another and another and so on. It's the cup size numbnuts!
A clear attack on the poor. One would think someone that has oversaw a huge increase of people on foodstamps under their watch would lay off the poor a bit.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:19 PM
 
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To answer your question, a business can not be successful unless it serves its customers well. If I sell you bad food and you get sick then you will not come back to me to buy the bad food. I will soon be out of business. If I sell you top notch, good food you will be back and my business is successful due to customers and repeat customers.

Problem solved without treating me like I am an idiot or telling me what to do.
What problem solved? You addressed none of the problems I have with conservatives.

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Get a job or run a business so you can support you and your family. Don't depend on the government because as we all see they can't do the job.
Let me know when conservatives would like to actually do that since upon examination they are often welfare pigs .

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People should have common sense and don't need the government to lord over them to tell them what to do.
Common sense does not cut it. Too many counter intuitive concepts must be learned. Liberals are poor scientists because they have no sense and use magical thinking. Conservatives apply common sense to everything, even though it can be demonstrated to be unreliable.

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Balance your personal budget so expenses are lower than income.

Help others but not to the point where they abuse it.
That's the theory anyway, but again no definition of proper government I may rely on.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:20 PM
 
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if you don't know the difference between mind altering drugs and food, theer is no reason to have a discussion with you.
Alcohol is mind altering. Your move.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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M. Bloomberg is not a liberal. M. Bloomberg is a republican. In actuality, M. Bloomberg sounds like a conservative when speaking about preventing poor people from buying surgary drinks.

It sounds like the many, many, many conservatives who want the food choices of those receiving public assistance restricted.

This is an interesting topic, because the question becomes how can the state force you to wear a helmet on a bike or a motorcycle? How can the state force you to wear a seat belt? How can the state force you to buy car insurance? How can the state force all school children to go to school till age 16?

How can the state force you to vaccinations? and on and on and on.

The reality is that any government is going to get involved in the personal decisions of it's citizens.

Pretending that conservatives don't support this type of government interference is insane.

Banning surgary drinks isn't the first example of this.
I support none of that.
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Old 03-16-2013, 05:38 PM
 
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Sugar is artificially high.
Another free market win, not so much for the USA.

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Labor is higher due to price floors (minimum wage).
According my theory basic labor is now mostly a financial expense. Wages are the price of rental upkeep , a bloated FIRE sector expense.

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Taxes in aggregate are high due to a multitude of government programs.
They are high because the chosen reaction to the old feudal system(financialized) is socialism. The reaction is necessary, but badly chosen.

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In the aggregate I bet there is a net penalty rather than net subsidies. What say you?
Only a subsidy from a philosopher king might beat the market. It is certainly no market principle by definition.
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Old 03-16-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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As is conservatism, so called.

So I wonder. If soda went to market price without the subsidies, would we need the liberal ban against the conglomerate market manipulator?
Perhaps not, I'd love it if there were more subsidies for fruit & vegetables as well as for nuts & seeds maybe than I could get some almonds and walnuts for less than $5

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Old 03-17-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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Well you don't live on the internet, so I guess you're not allowed to comment here.

What a stupid statement.



That's genius.

Liberal acts like a liberal idiot, he's not a liberal, he's a conservative!

Brilliant strategy sir, well played.



M. Bloomberg is a liberal, no question about it. His positions are liberal. What a joke.

New York's Mayor Bloomberg is More Liberal Than Romney and Obama



Another brilliant strategy. Point out a semantic flaw, ignore the sentiment.



If it quacks like a liberal, it's probably a liberal.



So is "hey, you can't talk about that since you don't live there!"

By the way, slippery slope is not necessarily a logical fallacy, it depends on the conditions of the argument.

And in many cases, the slippery slope argument is absolutely 100% valid.



So you admit that it's retarded.

Genius that you are, you fail to grasp is that it's the symbolism that bothers people. Nobody ever asserted anything beyond what the law says.

Seriously, get this through your head, it's quite obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.

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So there you go, not one valid argument presented besides a) shut up because you don't live there, b) the law is ineffective, so shut up, and c) shut up, because bloomberg is actually a conservative republican (who supports gun control and soda bans).
Good job shirking responsibility for Bloomberg. Actual liberals voted for Mark Green but don't let facts get in the way of a rant
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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This is a perfect stereotype of why people or at least what people don't like about liberals. This push to make you do what they want you to. Its for your own good. How exactly is this any different than the Religious nuts who think porn should be illegal? Or Abortion or gun control? Its all the same crap. One thinks they have to help you lose a few pounds the other to save your soul. I am sick of both sides telling me how to live.

You want to do a documentary or PSA on fat in food, or sugar, or even porn fine, but stop trying to pass a law to force me to abide by your crazy crap.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Bloomberg started out as a Democrat, then switched to the Republican party largely because of expediency (much less competition in the party primary as a Republican), and then switched to Independent. He was backed by Guliani in 2001 and is mostly conservative on fiscal issues and liberal on social issues and guns. All in all, he's a very middle of the road politician without much if any loyalty to either party. So this battle between the two sides trying to blame him on the other side is silly.

That's certainly not true about many liberals, and possibly most liberals. But I would wager that more liberals support this ban than conservatives. Not all conservatives support the ban on cannabis flowers either, but more do than do liberals.

But of course on city-data people's biases towards their political sports team are so strong that they think every issue is black and white and the other team is evil and always wrong.
By your logic, conservatives support the Westboro Baptist Church.

Bloomberg ran and was elected as an independent on a republican ticket.
He was republican for his first two terms.

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I agree to a point. I think the far left wing over-the-top liberals are the ones worthy of hate, same with the far far right wingnuts...

You got them on both ends of the spectrum.
And you hate these people?
Really?
Lot of energy to expend for what?

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Old 03-18-2013, 03:58 AM
 
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Good job shirking responsibility for Bloomberg. Actual liberals voted for Mark Green but don't let facts get in the way of a rant
Lmao.

Dude, Bloomberg is a liberal. He ACTS like a liberal. I don't care what he calls himself, what his opponents call themselves, or who voted for who.

If you do more liberal things, you're a liberal.

This is a shining example of the types of things that liberals do. Oh, and who supports this policy? Liberals. Everyone I've seen on this board, supporting this policy, is a liberal. Every. Single. Person.

How you all can be so intellectually dishonest is beyond me.
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