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Old 03-17-2013, 09:28 AM
 
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Gohmert tells CPAC: We could’ve won Vietnam - Salon.com

Maybe this guy should take a walk past that wall with the 58,200 names on it. Just another right wing chicken hawk all too willing to turn other people's kids into cannon fodder.
Of course we could have "won" Vietnam. I am a right winger, but strongly feel as though we should NEVER commit US troops unless our national interests are directly affected.

We were "trapped" into Vietnam by a treaty agreement. I guess we should have learned from Korea and re-evaluated those treaties of mutual defense.

This is why the POTUS should probably have, as a requirement, service in the military as a pre-requisite for office, as the decision to commit troops would be made by someone who had placed their own life on the line by the decision of another POTUS.

The only "reasonable" war, since WW2, has been the first Gulf War, the invasion of Kuwait jeopardized our oil supply. Too bad so many of our boys have died in these colonial spats that seem to not benefit the US one bit.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:28 AM
 
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No I wasn`t there so I was able to get news that wasn`t filtered through the military censors.
"No I wasn`t there".

I rest my case.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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Is Gohmert speaking from experience? Was he in the bush, carrying a ruck, and firing a rifle?

No? Oh, well, he is just another Republican blowhard who loves him some war, as long as he is not in it.

CPAC = Freakshow
Were YOU there? Or just another blowhard?
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: texas
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"We didn`t pu**y foot around." B.S.

The number of troops has NOTHING to do with it. When you know the enemy is over the hill and you CAN'T fire on them UNTIL they fire first is pu**y footing around.

When the Rules of R engagement says you can't fire until you ar fired upon what do you call it. THAT ROE is what caused a LOT of casualties.

When the enemy is bombing YOU from the DMZ and you STOP bombing back, THAT is pu**u footing around.

How long did we have the orders that said we couldn't bomb Hanoi, which was the HQs for the enemy?

I don't think you know very much about the Viet Nam war. Were you there?
If you served in a combat zone I respect that. If Mr. Gohmert served as you did, then his assessment is still odd to the view of us that realize the loss and cost to our nation was to great.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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The Vietnam war was lost politically not militarily. We did win all major battles and would have won totally if allowed to fight. The politicians controlled that war.


Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam.
The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. (Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike, a professor at the University of California, Berkley a renowned expert on the Vietnam War) [Westmoreland] This included Tet 68, which was a major military defeat for the VC and NVA




.http://www.vhfcn.org/stat.html
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:03 AM
 
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The Vietnam war was lost politically not militarily. We did win all major battles and would have won totally if allowed to fight. The politicians controlled that war.


Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam.
The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. (Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike, a professor at the University of California, Berkley a renowned expert on the Vietnam War) [Westmoreland] This included Tet 68, which was a major military defeat for the VC and NVA




.Statistics about the Vietnam War
There is never a shortage of right-wingers trying to rewrite history, particularly when it comes to Vietnam. I eagerly await the days in the future in which new generations of right-wing vermin inform us how things would have been different in Iraq and Afghanistan had those goddam*ed liberals not prevented us from being aggressive enough.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:11 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Gohmert tells CPAC: We could’ve won Vietnam

This confirms it...

If Gohmert's brain was dynamite he couldn't blow his nose.

What an azzwipe.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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He is right and is the reason there are so many on that wall.
He may be Right but he's certainly not correct, there was never anything to win in Vietnam.

The reason there are so many on that wall is just another case of the US lamely trying to play world police in places it doesn't belong.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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The Vietnam war was lost politically not militarily. We did win all major battles and would have won totally if allowed to fight. The politicians controlled that war.


Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam.
The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. (Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike, a professor at the University of California, Berkley a renowned expert on the Vietnam War) [Westmoreland] This included Tet 68, which was a major military defeat for the VC and NVA




.Statistics about the Vietnam War
We could have kept winning battles and killing Vietnamese a dozen or two dozen at a time.In a thousand years or so there would have been no Vietnamese left and we would be declared the winners.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What ever the lack of good reasons they were far better reasons than the criminal attack on Iraq.

It was the same reason.
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