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Old 03-18-2013, 11:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by helenejen View Post
Exactly. So why make claims you can't support with any actual evidence. You do so to sensationalize the situation. Makes you and yours feel like you are working to save the lives of women rather than putting them in jeopardy.
Taping abortion clinics from the outside does not put anyone in jeopardy, that is unless PP is not doing anything wrong. Most doctors don't mind talking about their clinic and practices----when they are good doctors.

 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by janelle144 View Post
When an ambulance comes to pick up a woman from an abortion clinic it's usually for a botched abortion. Plus this clinic has already had 2 or 3 other botched abortions so it's a good guess this is one as well.
You've got some statistics (not from your whackaloon religious anti-woman, anti-choice site) supporting this, right?
If not, why do you insist on typing your opinions and wants as facts?

So, here we go, once again, posting the truth and facts in opposition to lies and fabrications:

Abortion Statistics, Facts About Abortion In The US.
Safety of Abortion
Risk associated with abortion is minimal. Less than 0.3% of abortion patients experience a complication that requires hospitalization.

Abortions performed in the first trimester pose virtually no long-term risk of problems such as infertility, ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) or birth defect, and little or no risk of preterm or low-birth-weight deliveries.

Following exhaustive reviews, the U.S. and British governments have concluded that there is no association between abortion and breast cancer. There is also no indication that abortion is a risk factor for other cancers.


WHO | Why do so many women still die in pregnancy or childbirth?
Q: Why do so many women still die in pregnancy or childbirth?

A: Every minute, at least one woman dies from complications related to pregnancy or childbirth – that means 529 000 women a year. In addition, for every woman who dies in childbirth, around 20 more suffer injury, infection or disease – approximately 10 million women each year.


CDC - Pregnancy-related Deaths - Maternal and Infant Health - Reproductive Health
The death of a woman during pregnancy, at delivery, or soon after delivery is a tragedy for her family and for society as a whole. Sadly, about 650 women die each year in the United States as a result of pregnancy or delivery complications.

WHO | Maternal mortality
Key facts
- Every day, approximately 800 women die from preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.
- 99% of all maternal deaths occur in developing countries.
- Maternal mortality is higher in women living in rural areas and among poorer communities.


So, tell me again about the horrors of abortion (you don't know that the woman at PP was there for an abortion) and tell me about the joys and safety of childbirth.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:21 PM
 
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Non-botched abortions do not require an ambulance to take one to the hospital.
Again, you have no idea why she was there.
Jesus now loves lies.
How lovely.
I guess with a new pope, fabrication is no longer a sin?

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Originally Posted by helenejen View Post
Exactly. So why make claims you can't support with any actual evidence. You do so to sensationalize the situation. Makes you and yours feel like you are working to save the lives of women rather than putting them in jeopardy.
Status quo?
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Taping abortion clinics from the outside does not put anyone in jeopardy, that is unless PP is not doing anything wrong. Most doctors don't mind talking about their clinic and practices----when they are good doctors.
Taping abortion clinics and taping patients are two very different things, Janelle. And you know it.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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No, it does not. These are individuals, there for whatever personal reason that they went to PP. That may or may not include abortion in those individual cases. If any of them did indeed have an abortion, there is no saying it was "botched" because they went away in an ambulance. There are any number of complications of medical procedures that have nothing to do with malpractice.

"Gladys Kravitz" shouldn't have been assaulted, but she also should not have been invading this woman (and, I'm guessing) her family's privacy, especially with her commentary.
We will see how it ends up in court as to who did what and if it was ok.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:24 PM
 
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Why does she leave out the part where she was threatened. I suspect it was a request to give the patient some privacy that escalated when she refused.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:24 PM
 
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You've got some statistics (not from your whackaloon religious anti-woman, anti-choice site) supporting this, right?
If not, why do you insist on typing your opinions and wants as facts?

So, here we go, once again, posting the truth and facts in opposition to lies and fabrications:

Abortion Statistics, Facts About Abortion In The US.
Safety of Abortion
Risk associated with abortion is minimal. Less than 0.3% of abortion patients experience a complication that requires hospitalization.

Abortions performed in the first trimester pose virtually no long-term risk of problems such as infertility, ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) or birth defect, and little or no risk of preterm or low-birth-weight deliveries.

Following exhaustive reviews, the U.S. and British governments have concluded that there is no association between abortion and breast cancer. There is also no indication that abortion is a risk factor for other cancers.

WHO | Why do so many women still die in pregnancy or childbirth?
Q: Why do so many women still die in pregnancy or childbirth?

A: Every minute, at least one woman dies from complications related to pregnancy or childbirth – that means 529 000 women a year. In addition, for every woman who dies in childbirth, around 20 more suffer injury, infection or disease – approximately 10 million women each year.

CDC - Pregnancy-related Deaths - Maternal and Infant Health - Reproductive Health
The death of a woman during pregnancy, at delivery, or soon after delivery is a tragedy for her family and for society as a whole. Sadly, about 650 women die each year in the United States as a result of pregnancy or delivery complications.

WHO | Maternal mortality
Key facts
- Every day, approximately 800 women die from preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.
- 99% of all maternal deaths occur in developing countries.
- Maternal mortality is higher in women living in rural areas and among poorer communities.

So, tell me again about the horrors of abortion (you don't know that the woman at PP was there for an abortion) and tell me about the joys and safety of childbirth.
I can find stats that state the opposite.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:25 PM
 
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She was invading the privacy of a person at the clinic, it could have been a staff member, it could have been anyone. She was being an intrusive pest.
She was exercising her 1st Amendment Rights.
Because YOU consider this being a pest, it justifies assault?

I believe you are a liberal.
As such, you are also an excellent example of why liberals are antithesis to a free society.
It appears Freedom and Tolerance only exist in relation to the things you like and agree with.

It appears by your statement, those you don't like or agree with deserve to be beaten.
Is this correct? Or am I misunderstanding you.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I can find stats that state the opposite.
So know the CDC and WHO are working for evil Planned Parenthood and fudging the stats?

You can find propaganda. That's it.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
Again, you have no idea why she was there.
Jesus now loves lies.
How lovely.
Christians seem to know very little about the bible. Isn't there a commandment about bearing false witnesses?
Or does it say to call the police and let them handle it??


Leviticus 19:16 – “Do not go about spreading slander among your people. Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor’s life. I am the Lord.
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