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Isn't it a shame that 17 year olds can commit murder, knowing full well they won't be executed? There have only been 22 executions of murderers who committed their acts as 17 year olds. The youngest was 25 the day he was executed. The average age was 32, which gave them about 13 years more than they deserved. I believe a couple of years for appeals would be about right. Less appeals, less backups in the court system, more would get done. Execution of Juveniles in the U.S. and other Countries | Death Penalty Information Center
The cost for each was more than $1M + litigation and appeals. I'd venture to say those young murderer's cost close to $50M just to give them a return ticket to hell. Defense lawyers salivate over every year they can squeeze out of the system.
Isn't it a shame that you don't read stuff on your own links:
"(The death penalty is forbidden in all states for those under the age of 18 at the time of their crime following the Supreme Court's ruling in Roper v. Simmons (2005))"
No, defense attorneys certainly do not "salivate" over death penalty cases. They are very complicated to try, death penalty law is more complex, and the attorneys who do these cases are usually public defenders because very few people charged with murder are WEALTHY and can hire their own attorney. The same is true with appeals. The appeal work is very difficult and is usually done at state expense because these people on death row are indigent. Public Defenders work on a salary, and a lower salary than state prosecutors. Public defenders do NOT get more money if the case takes longer. They get the same salary. The litigation costs are not for the attorneys.
That kid said what most of the convicted think but do NOT say in open court. Is it that he showed no remorse and said such stupid things that makes people think that he is worse than other people convicted of murder? He shot three people. He didn't take them to his house and torture them for days before he killed them. He's like most other people who have been convicted of murder in this country. MOST people on death rows are not sadistic serial killers. They are just basic run-of-the-mill people with no impulse control, almost always a low IQ, who got themselves in a situation where they made one more really bad choice. You don't read about these people in the papers. Their stories are NOT national news. This kid is national news because he is SO YOUNG!! And clearly he's got mental problems. It costs you all a LOT OF MONEY to execute people. In the states with the death penalty, that litigation is very, very expensive.
I have a real serious problem with money being an issue where someone's life is concerned. To me, this is a matter of principle. Money might be a concern when it comes to how much it costs to keep someone in a permanent vegetative state alive. But it shouldn't be a concern over whether a criminal lives or dies. Justice should drive that decision, not money. And to my mind, justice says you do not kill someone who does not pose any imminent threat.
What goes around comes around, got a feeling his coming around, is just about to begin.
His life is hell. His little picnic is being stomped on. This twit, has no remorse or sorrow what so ever. That smug look on his face, would like someone to knock it off. That is one punk kid, one person that has no remorse for these killings, and the way he flipped the family members of the victims off, he is scum.
Nuts? He's an adult... ohh boo hoo alcohol. Sure he drank some anyway. Not nuts at all. Tell that to the family who will NEVER see their children again because of him. At least his mommy can visit him in prison. He's lucky he wasn't chosen to be put down. See these bleeding hearts keep people like the Green River Killer(presumed to be 90+ victims) in jail, being paid for by tax payers, some that are family of people he killed.
Now that is nuts.
Didn't the state offer the Green River Killer a deal if he agreed to tell them about other victims? Wasn't that for the families?
"Deputy prosecutor Jeffrey Baird noted in court that the deal contained "the names of 41 victims who would not be the subject of State v. Ridgway if it were not for the plea agreement." King County Prosecuting Attorney Norm Maleng explained his decision to make the deal:
“ We could have gone forward with seven counts, but that is all we could have ever hoped to solve. At the end of that trial, whatever the outcome, there would have been lingering doubts about the rest of these crimes. This agreement was the avenue to the truth. And in the end, the search for the truth is still why we have a criminal justice system ... Gary Ridgway does not deserve our mercy. He does not deserve to live. The mercy provided by today's resolution is directed not at Ridgway, but toward the families who have suffered so much
Washington state does have a death penalty. It was for the victims families that the state bargained away the death penalty, so that the families would know what happened to their loved ones.
What goes around comes around, got a feeling his coming around, is just about to begin.
His life is hell. His little picnic is being stomped on. This twit, has no remorse or sorrow what so ever. That smug look on his face, would like someone to knock it off. That is one punk kid, one person that has no remorse for these killings, and the way he flipped the family members of the victims off, he is scum.
And there are some who never ever rehabilitate.
The purpose of life without parole is NOT rehabilitation. He will grow up in prison. He will regret what he did at some point. He is still very young and either not that bright or he has overwhelming rage......too bad there aren't more programs out there to help kids with that kind of rage before they "act out" and kill others.
I have a real serious problem with money being an issue where someone's life is concerned. To me, this is a matter of principle. Money might be a concern when it comes to how much it costs to keep someone in a permanent vegetative state alive. But it shouldn't be a concern over whether a criminal lives or dies. Justice should drive that decision, not money. And to my mind, justice says you do not kill someone who does not pose any imminent threat.
Politics, not money, drives the death penalty. If money were the first concern, the prosecutors would not charge so many cases as death penalty cases.
Prosecutors win elections on the death penalty issue. In Florida our Attorney General used her background of sending people to death row in her campaign. Prosecutors who want to be judges, use their death penalty background in their campaigns. Legislators take turns complaining about the length of time it takes from conviction to execution for publicity, and votes. It is enormously political.
However, ultimately, with the scarce resources states have these days, money may end up being the reason the death penalty is abandoned in various states. Can we really afford the cost of revenge these days when we have statutes which provide for life without parole, ever? Budgets are tight everywhere. Commute the sentences to life without.
A bullet is cheaper than paying for these scumbags to sit in jail. Well it is now. When the loons get the idea to tax ammo to death who knows it may cost more to shoot em. Back to the guillotine with em on the courthouse steps.
Did I ever write anything to suggest that he was? My statement was to suggest that criminals get murdered by other criminals in jail often.
I used Jeffrey Dahmer as an example because the guy who killed him was just as messed up as he was, but in a very different way.
Actually, yes, you did suggest that he would be treated like Jeffrey Dahmer, who killed little boys, and then ATE them, by using Dahmer's murder as a comparison to this kid. Maybe you should read your posts a little more critically.
Do you have any numbers to back up your claim that criminals kill each other in jail "often"? I don't think that's true at all.
A bullet is cheaper than paying for these scumbags to sit in jail. Well it is now. When the loons get the idea to tax ammo to death who knows it may cost more to shoot em. Back to the guillotine with em on the courthouse steps.
LOL That's funny ^^^
I'm sure you wouldn't want us to execute people without due process.
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That's funny ^^^
