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Old 01-11-2018, 01:44 AM
 
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I think I can do without those!

I don't think I would like beer; don't like the smell.

I possibly would like wine but don't want to take the chance of being an alcoholic (many who say that can never happen to them later regret saying that).

I prefer vanilla Coke (yes, I know soft drinks are not exactly healthful drinks, but it's very nice knowing I can't be pulled over for drinking sodas).

Instead of the "pleasure" of consuming alcohol (or cigarettes or drugs), I enjoy pizza and chocolate.
I really don't think I'm missing much, if anything. A great many people are lifelong non-drinkers and still enjoy life.
You'll never know for sure if you would or not, given that you've never tasted them.

Do you agree?
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:50 AM
 
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The agruments againsts cigs is that it causes lung cancer, emphysema, heart issues, it stinks, etc. Can the exact same things not be said about pot? I've never smoked either, so I don't know, but cigarettes are socially unacceptable, yet pot is socially cool. Why? Thanks
I forgot to say cannabis lowers blood pressure by widening blood vessels. while tobacco raises blood pressure by narrowing blood vessels. There doesn't seem to be evidence that cannabis causes COPD or emphysema in those who've never smoked tobacco. Cannabis can rarely cause a temporary low lung function, like only normal breathing is possible. This would likely require extreme amounts of the THC smoke. Search You Tube video world's record hotbox session and it should come up. It's the one where there are many people in room, concentrates frying in pans, almost no visibility, oxygen can passed around.

Of course the above required burning up maybe $10,000 worth of *concentrates* in an hour. Of course very little oxygen is technically not the same as proving pot/THC a poison. Best wishes.
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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You'll never know for sure if you would or not, given that you've never tasted them.

Do you agree?
Agreed but they still have no appeal for me.

I may also enjoy skydiving and trekking to the North Pole, but I think I'll pass on those, too!
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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Because you don't smoke pot 20 times a day or more, unless you have a problem.
"Because you don't smoke pot 20 times a day or more"

That is NOT the claim anti-smokers made when they were arguing AGAINST smoking.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Wow. Just wow. Millions of users, daily, 50 years, not one case, yet you cling to your sad belief. It is the longest long-term study we've ever had! You are just COMPLETELY closed-minded..
So, no one who ever smoked pot ever got cancer? Of course many did, but there has not been a 50 year study to look into the relation of cannabis and cancer to conclude pot caused the cancer. The other poster was correct in his comment about what lack of evidence means, and does not mean.

Edit: Well, looks like someone provided a link to a study which shows pot is even more likely to cause cancer than cigs.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:54 AM
 
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Cause pot addicts and people making money of pot addicts are pushing (pun intended) for it to be cool. So they can feed their addiction and get pockets lined.
It is the flavor of the next movement
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:41 AM
 
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So, no one who ever smoked pot ever got cancer? Of course many did, but there has not been a 50 year study to look into the relation of cannabis and cancer to conclude pot caused the cancer. The other poster was correct in his comment about what lack of evidence means, and does not mean.

Edit: Well, looks like someone provided a link to a study which shows pot is even more likely to cause cancer than cigs.
I see you pick and choose your studies. Not surprising. Like the OP, you are not posting here to learn anything about this subject.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/

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In conclusion, while both tobacco and cannabis smoke have similar properties chemically, their pharmacological activities differ greatly. Components of cannabis smoke minimize some carcinogenic pathways whereas tobacco smoke enhances some. Both types of smoke contain carcinogens and particulate matter that promotes inflammatory immune responses that may enhance the carcinogenic effects of the smoke. However, cannabis typically down-regulates immunologically-generated free radical production by promoting a Th2 immune cytokine profile. Furthermore, THC inhibits the enzyme necessary to activate some of the carcinogens found in smoke. In contrast, tobacco smoke increases the likelihood of carcinogenesis by overcoming normal cellular checkpoint protective mechanisms through the activity of respiratory epithelial cell nicotine receptors. Cannabinoids receptors have not been reported in respiratory epithelial cells (in skin they prevent cancer), and hence the DNA damage checkpoint mechanism should remain intact after prolonged cannabis exposure. Furthermore, nicotine promotes tumor angiogenesis whereas cannabis inhibits it. It is possible that as the cannabis-consuming population ages, the long-term consequences of smoking cannabis may become more similar to what is observed with tobacco. However, current knowledge does not suggest that cannabis smoke will have a carcinogenic potential comparable to that resulting from exposure to tobacco.
HOW MUCH EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED? Finn, you are simply closed minded on this issue, and no matter how many people try to educate you , it will never happen.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The agruments againsts cigs is that it causes lung cancer, emphysema, heart issues, it stinks, etc. Can the exact same things not be said about pot? I've never smoked either, so I don't know, but cigarettes are socially unacceptable, yet pot is socially cool. Why? Thanks
No weed doesn't cause those things to happen. As a matte of fact it is used to combat lack of hunger when on chemo. It can be eaten also.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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When you sound like you are hacking up a lung, it can't be that good for your lungs...just saying.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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I have friends in legal marijuana states, and none of them regularly inhale burning material into their lungs. And they mostly consume edibles or vape. People without access to legal marijuana, are more likely to smoke buds.
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