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Old 03-21-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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It is a bowl or a cup of the following recipe:


* self interest
* concentration of power
* Western

Would you like some more or are you good?
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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They are a think tank that was set up by the elite to steer foreign policy and are a very powerful organization. During a Presidential campaign both candidates are surrounded by CFR members. The two most important cabinet positions in the Obama administration are filled with CFR members Kerry and Hagel.

The CFR has a long history of having CFR members in key positions no matter which party is at the helm, that is there purpose and power. IMO, the elites or new world order types figured out the weakness of democracy. Such as a country can at one time swing left and turn around in a short period and swing right.

So they formed the CFR that no matter what foreign policy stays pretty much the same and on track with their agenda. That is why no matter who is in the big chair foreign policy stays the same, is there really any difference between Bush/Obama in this area? Nope pretty much both are interventionist and war mongers it keeps the military complex alive and well. I think Ike tried to warn us about the CFR and others when he left office.

It is obvious at least to me that foreign policy is run by the CFR and money and financials is run by the banks and FR. The banksters need their protection for their investments and the CFR makes sure that we are it. Thats it for now I have to go wave my flag now USA USA USA. Lmao
I agree with your entire post!
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:42 PM
 
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and what is your opinion of it, and who belongs to it?

Very interested in all responses, possible poll to be attached.
In order to be a "serious" member of the CFR you need to support the wars that US political elites choose to engage in.

Our war-loving Foreign Policy Community hasn’t gone anywhere - Salon.com

As President Emeritus, Leslie Gelb of CFR wrote:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MnYI3_FRbb...600-h/gelb.png

Of course this lesson was never learned, as only "unserious" people would advise that we not go to war with Iran.

its dominant bipartisan ideology is defined by extreme hawkishness, the casual use of military force as a foreign policy tool, the belief that war is justified not only in self-defense but for any “good result,”

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Old 03-21-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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It is a bowl or a cup of the following recipe:


* self interest
* concentration of power
* Western

Would you like some more or are you good?
imo, its far more noxious than that.
Our msm (both sides) is tightly managed. Its like fitting together the puzzle, and understanding why we are at the point we are at now.

I also think Couric is a mediocre shill,(like all of them, Williams, et. al., (but never realized WHY the CFR pays their shills so well).

Its very informative, but one will never look at the media or America the same after reading:


Publishers Weekly~
In the first half of the 20th century, more than 60,000 Americans-poor, uneducated, members of minorities-were forcibly sterilized to prevent them from passing on supposedly defective genes. This policy, called eugenics, was the brainchild of such influential people as Rockefellers, Andrew Carnegie and Margaret Sanger.

War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race, Expanded Edition: Edwin Black: Amazon.com: Books

In NY, Rockefeller is often portrayed as a benevolent philanthropist. Growing up, much disinfo and propaganda was taught to us as children.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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and what is your opinion of it, and who belongs to it?

Very interested in all responses, possible poll to be attached.
I think they are evil globalists. Their goals are the same as the Illuminati, a NWO that will create slaves of us all.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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To answer this question one must delve very deeply into the subject of conspiracy theories. Conspiracies are difficult to prove, they are also difficult to disprove. In the case of the CFR, a very large amount of evidence has been presented documenting the influence of it's members on national policy. The agenda and goal of the CFR appears to be the elimination of US sovereignty and creation of a one world global government. Members of the CFR scoff at such notions and claim that such accusations are fantasy and come from the conspiracy nuts. With over 4000 members there are said to be many cliques and widely different opinions on the issues, so how could there be an agreed upon agenda, say it's defenders?

The leading organization and unyielding enemy for more than four decades of the CFR has been the John Birch Society, a controversial group itself with waning recent influence in the last few years. Books have been written by Birchers about the CFR. However, the CFR has gotten scrutiny and suspicion from non Birchers as well. Defectors from the CFR have talked as well. The CFR is said to be part of a much larger global group, with close tie ins to the Trilateral Commision and the Bilderberger Group. The roots of these secret societies and conspiracies are claimed by a few to have gone back to the 18th century Illuminatti, or even as far back as the Knights Templar in medieval Europe.

To complicate matters even more, the CFR has many memebrs that are widely regarded as being conservatives, hardly men that would endorse one world government at the expense of the interests of the USA. Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, John McCain, and John Bolton, to name just a few. The late William F. Buckley, one of the founding fathers of modern American conservatism, was a member.

One of the ways in which a conspiracy shields it's true intentions is to invite into it's organization those that might prove to be a foe, the old "keep your enemy closer" theory. Quite likely most of the CFR members are never shown the true goals or taken into the inner circles of power and leadership, only a select few that are evaluated and groomed are. So, group of evil conspirators out to enslave America and the entire globe, or just another think tank and policy study group, hard call, evidence on both sides.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Thank you for responding. info in Rockefeller's biographies, and the research alone is quite enlightening. I highly doubt the CFR is just another think tank.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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New global level in eugenics. The
Rockefeller network has long financed GMO (eg. spermicidal corn),
"agrobusiness", bio-warfare, bio-fuels etc for eugenics.Gates,
Rockefeller Foundation et al have financed the "Svalbard Seed
Vault".
WHY?

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/ (The Seed Barons)

Kissinger:"If you control oil, you control nations. If you control food,
you control people."

I think much disinfo is out there lately, people throw out references to celebs, etc. (disinfo).
Its much deeper and more important than we may realize. It is safe to call it inquiry into reality. And the fact that the mainstream media lies serve a higher purpose, the msm in America is owned by factions, telling it what to say. Once you realize this, you realize 'news' is useless media.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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The thing is, if you have great wealth in this country, then you're obviously gonna have influence and connections... and if so, how do you use them? And there are many styles of influencing political decisions... from the quasi-progressive George Soros and Warren Buffett types, to Right Wingers like Grover Norquist & the Koch Family, to pragmatic old line families like the Rockefellers who may be more "subtle" about it via things like the CFR (remember the days of "Rockefeller Republicans" who used to resemble todays lib-ruls...)!

And am not hip enough to the CFR in particular to offer an edumacated opinion, although for every argument for a liberal CFR conspiracy, there's also an equally compelling one for a conservative CFR conspiracy. Either way, it's true that there's obviously a certain "continuity" to our foreign policy (and to the CFR ''players''), which transcends parties. But maybe that isn't such a bad thing... regardless the ''motives''. Because unless we really want our foreign policy to lurch all over the place with each new administration, then they're a necessary evil. And that they screw up now and then (like in Iraq) proves they're still fallible... and human, which is a good thing.

Besides, speaking of human weaknesses, in an era when a POTUS can't even indulge in a little extra-marital hanky panky without the whole world finding out about it, I find it really unlikely that vast conspiratorial networks are going on all around us (let alone for centuries), without the occasional disgruntled blabbermouth spilling the beans in their next book, interview or blog! Heck, I can't even get my big mouth brother to not blab my mom's Xmas gift!
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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To answer this question one must delve very deeply into the subject of conspiracy theories. Conspiracies are difficult to prove, they are also difficult to disprove. In the case of the CFR, a very large amount of evidence has been presented documenting the influence of it's members on national policy. The agenda and goal of the CFR appears to be the elimination of US sovereignty and creation of a one world global government. Members of the CFR scoff at such notions and claim that such accusations are fantasy and come from the conspiracy nuts. With over 4000 members there are said to be many cliques and widely different opinions on the issues, so how could there be an agreed upon agenda, say it's defenders?

The leading organization and unyielding enemy for more than four decades of the CFR has been the John Birch Society, a controversial group itself with waning recent influence in the last few years. Books have been written by Birchers about the CFR. However, the CFR has gotten scrutiny and suspicion from non Birchers as well. Defectors from the CFR have talked as well. The CFR is said to be part of a much larger global group, with close tie ins to the Trilateral Commision and the Bilderberger Group. The roots of these secret societies and conspiracies are claimed by a few to have gone back to the 18th century Illuminatti, or even as far back as the Knights Templar in medieval Europe.

To complicate matters even more, the CFR has many memebrs that are widely regarded as being conservatives, hardly men that would endorse one world government at the expense of the interests of the USA. Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, John McCain, and John Bolton, to name just a few. The late William F. Buckley, one of the founding fathers of modern American conservatism, was a member.

One of the ways in which a conspiracy shields it's true intentions is to invite into it's organization those that might prove to be a foe, the old "keep your enemy closer" theory. Quite likely most of the CFR members are never shown the true goals or taken into the inner circles of power and leadership, only a select few that are evaluated and groomed are. So, group of evil conspirators out to enslave America and the entire globe, or just another think tank and policy study group, hard call, evidence on both sides.
Very interesting and enlightening. Sounds like the way the Masons do their work with the 33rd degree and above.
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