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Old 03-23-2013, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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I didn't leave em out I just named a few states to give the people a good idea of what I think the southern region is.

But if you really want to know how I label conservative states it's like this:

South:

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
North Carolina
Virginia
Alabama
Mississippi
Louisiana
Arkansas
Missouri
Texas

Appalachian:

Pennsylvania
Kentucky
West Virginia
Tennessee

Midwest:

Kansas
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Iowa
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wisconsin
Illinois
Minnesota
Ohio
Indiana

Northwest:

Alaska
Idaho
Montana
Utah
Wyoming


If I remember my geography correctly, I think that covers just about every conservative state...
Oklahoma is not a midwestern state, it's a Southern State.

 
Old 03-23-2013, 10:54 PM
 
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I think it is kind of pointless to attempt to differentiate southern conservatives and northern conservatives.

conservatives generally speaking are nearly the same in their ideology no matter where they reside.

conservatives are motivated by racial prejudice, this is not an opinion, but a fact that has been repeatedly measured over and over again.

Those who identify themselves as conservative are much more concerned about the changing racial demographics of this nation, they are much less likely to think that interracial marriage is a good thing. They are much more likely to hold a host of anti-black views. This is not projection. This is self identified conservative answering questions in polls.

conservatives are against gay marriage. They are against the Americans who don't pay income taxes. They are against a lot of groups of Americans.

conservatives everywhere generally hold backwards ideas that benefit the powerful few and people who look like them, and hurt everyone else.
I'm probably the person the most against same gender marriage on this forum. Yet I have no problem with interracial marriage as long as it's not a intermarriage (jew and a non jew).

the only thing that worries me about the changing demographics in the country is that they vote for a anti Semitic, pro deviancy, pro crime, pro poverty, pro terrorism party no matter who's on the ballot. Conservative Hispanics like Senator Ruben Diaz may actually save this country from the countries biggest threat white liberal

PS your last sentance actualy describes liberals.
 
Old 03-24-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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Oklahoma is not a midwestern state, it's a Southern State.
Not really. It's not an Antebellum Southern state. Most people would think of Oklahoma in the way they should...as a Plains State. I realize that it's fashionable to be "southern" nowadays, and everyone wants to have a little Rebel in 'em, but Oklahoma just doesn't fit the bill. About the only part of the state that even qualifies it as somewhat southern is the stretch that lies east of Hwy 69.

It's no different than Texas. Only a sliver of Texas is Dixie. But when you have people from Pecos or Amarillo talking about how southern they are, they sound ridiculous.
 
Old 03-24-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Not really. It's not an Antebellum Southern state. Most people would think of Oklahoma in the way they should...as a Plains State. I realize that it's fashionable to be "southern" nowadays, and everyone wants to have a little Rebel in 'em, but Oklahoma just doesn't fit the bill. About the only part of the state that even qualifies it as somewhat southern is the stretch that lies east of Hwy 69.

It's no different than Texas. Only a sliver of Texas is Dixie. But when you have people from Pecos or Amarillo talking about how southern they are, they sound ridiculous.



How can Texas not be considered a Southern State? It was one of the eleven (11) states that seceded from the union to form the Confederate States of America . This is what most people would consider the real South. Also it is situated geographically about as South as you can get. Texas is a Southern state.
 
Old 03-24-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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How can Texas not be considered a Southern State? It was one of the eleven (11) states that seceded from the union to form the Confederate States of America . This is what most people would consider the real South. Also it is situated geographically about as South as you can get. Texas is a Southern state.
I didn't say that Texas isn't a southern state, i said that a sliver of it is. If you live in Big Spring or Pecos, you sound ridiculous calling yourself a Southerner.

The only part of Texas that one can call Antebellum Southern is an area from the Louisiana/Arkansas line going about 150-175 miles west. Rest of it is the Southwest.
 
Old 03-24-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Most, if not all states, have conservative politicians and politics coming from both major parties.
Not so, there is no such thing as a Conservative Democrat, it is an oxymoron. The so called Blue Dog Democrats are far to the left of the most liberal Republicans, an indication of just how polarized politics have become. Once upon a time there were moderately consevative southern Democrats, the so called Boll Weavils, but they gradually became extinct in the 80's and 90's.
 
Old 03-24-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Originally Posted by Iamme73 View Post
I think it is kind of pointless to attempt to differentiate southern conservatives and northern conservatives.

conservatives generally speaking are nearly the same in their ideology no matter where they reside.

conservatives are motivated by racial prejudice, this is not an opinion, but a fact that has been repeatedly measured over and over again.

Those who identify themselves as conservative are much more concerned about the changing racial demographics of this nation, they are much less likely to think that interracial marriage is a good thing. They are much more likely to hold a host of anti-black views. This is not projection. This is self identified conservative answering questions in polls.

conservatives are against gay marriage. They are against the Americans who don't pay income taxes. They are against a lot of groups of Americans.

conservatives everywhere generally hold backwards ideas that benefit the powerful few and people who look like them, and hurt everyone else.
Wow...people like you make liberals look worse than they already are. Liberals are the true racists and believe minorities can't live on their own so they give them handouts because they don't believe they're smart enough to work for themselves.
 
Old 03-24-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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How can Texas not be considered a Southern State? It was one of the eleven (11) states that seceded from the union to form the Confederate States of America . This is what most people would consider the real South. Also it is situated geographically about as South as you can get. Texas is a Southern state.
I live in Texas and lived in Georgia. The difference is people from Texas consider themselves Texans first before they will consider themselves Americans or Southerners. People from Georgia often consider themselves Southerners first. The point being, that at best, being 'Southern' is only secondary if that in the Texas identity.

I consider Texas to be a region onto itself. Not southwest, not antebellum south, but 'Texas' where those regions + the great plains + Mexican influence mesh into one state. I live in Houston, which is supposed to be the more Southern part of the state, but I still see Texas here more than South if that makes sense.

Anyways, the most Christian region in this country is Utah (Mormonism) or the GP states (Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas). The western/mountain states tend to be more libertarian (see Alaska) whereas the eastern southern states tend to just be socially conservative but otherwise very similar to their northern counterparts.
 
Old 03-24-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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I live in Texas and lived in Georgia. The difference is people from Texas consider themselves Texans first before they will consider themselves Americans or Southerners. People from Georgia often consider themselves Southerners first. The point being, that at best, being 'Southern' is only secondary if that in the Texas identity.

I consider Texas to be a region onto itself. Not southwest, not antebellum south, but 'Texas' where those regions + the great plains + Mexican influence mesh into one state. I live in Houston, which is supposed to be the more Southern part of the state, but I still see Texas here more than South if that makes sense.

Anyways, the most Christian region in this country is Utah (Mormonism) or the GP states (Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas). The western/mountain states tend to be more libertarian (see Alaska) whereas the eastern southern states tend to just be socially conservative but otherwise very similar to their northern counterparts.
Yea...that's actually a pretty good summation. The only part of Texas that is truly Antebellum South is the area that runs along the U.S. 59 corridor and points about 100-150 miles west of it....and not even all of that area as the 59 turns hard west out of Houston is Antebellum South.

Texas lies in several regions...Great Plains, Old Southwest, Antebellum South, the Coast...it's too big to just call it one thing.
 
Old 03-24-2013, 02:00 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Texas lies in several regions...Great Plains, Old Southwest, Antebellum South, the Coast...it's too big to just call it one thing.
59 cuts Houston in half, I'd personally push the line east. When I was in Beaumont, I definitely felt more in the 'South' than Texas but not so in Houston. The Rodeo for one is huge in this city and I don't associate Rodeo culture with the south.
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